[CCWG-ACCT] [ccTLDcommunity] Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) - Input Needed on its Proposed Accountability Enhancements (Work Stream 1)

Wed May 6 19:21:46 UTC 2015

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Giovanni

On 06 May 2015, at 18:20, Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk<mailto:Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk>> wrote:

I fully support Roelof's analysis.

Martin

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From: cctldcommunity-bounces at cctld-managers.org<mailto:cctldcommunity-bounces at cctld-managers.org> [mailto:cctldcommunity-bounces at cctld-managers.org] On Behalf Of Roelof Meijer
Sent: 06 May 2015 16:37
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Subject: Re: [ccTLDcommunity] Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) - Input Needed on its Proposed Accountability Enhancements (Work Stream 1)

Dear ccTLD colleagues,

It is with reluctance that I react to this thread, but I feel obliged to do so.
Reluctance, because I prefer to ignore Eberhard Lisse when he sends out one of his quite characteristic emails.
Obliged, however, because as his advice to you on how to deal with the request for community feed-back on the CCWG-Accountability Work Stream 1 proposals published on 4 May, he "strongly urge[s] all ccTLD Managers to strongly oppose this rubbish².

I consider that to be very poor, even irresponsible, advice, and urge you to read the report and give your feed-back. If you don¹t agree; let us know, if you have suggestions for improvements; tell us. But above all:
give us guidance with your opinion on the specific issues that we ask your feed-back on in the report.

The Enhancement of ICANN¹s Accountability is an inseparable part of the IANA Stewardship Transition, a conditio sine qua non. The successful transition of the IANA Stewardship is a necessity for the global, single internet to develop to it¹s maximum potential.
However, we will not have a second chance any time soon and thus we cannot afford to fail. The final proposals to enhance ICANN¹s accountability and to transition to IANA Stewardship are the ultimate test of the multi-stakeholder model and failure would, in the end, mean the end of that model.

So you cannot even afford to ignore the CCWG draft proposals, or any other proposal in this process. Unless maybe if you want to get rid of the multi-stakeholder model...

Like Eberhard Lisse, I am one of the ccTLD Community¹s participants in the CCWG. Very unlike Eberhard Lisse, I am proud of what the CCWG published on
4 May. It is certainly not perfect, it surely is not complete and it is definitely not final. The timeline, the enormous amount of work, the unknown territories we had to explore and insights and opinions we had to unite, made the process quite painful at times.
But the result -and in the end that is what really counts- is good. To be
honest: far better then I expected.
And quite solid enough to ask your feed-back on. So it can be improved.

Our three co-chairs Mathieu Weill, Thomas Rickert and León Felipe Sánchez-Ambia deserve no criticism, but our deep respect. For their leadership and guidance, for the substance they brought and also for the way they acted on feed-back from the group or individual members/participants.
They were -and are- real assets in this process. Eberhard Lisse, in my opinion, is not.

Best regards,

Roelof A. Meijer
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On 06-05-15 07:44, "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>> wrote:

Dear Byron, Dear Colleagues,

To set the record straight, Dr Lisse's statements about the violation
of the CCWG Accountability Charter and the dynamics of the group are a
misrepresentation of facts. Speaking of facts, we are more than happy
to provide details in response to the accusations as well as
explanations we gave to Dr Lisse on the public mailing list, to support our statement.

We would also note for the benefit of readers of these lists that Dr
Lisse has filed countless objections against almost everything the CCWG
did since it started. Participants and members of the CCWG have
expressed to the co-chairs that they consider Dr Lisse's behaviour as
an attempt to discredit the work of fellow volunteers and derail the
work of the group.

We will not burden everyone on the lists that were cc-ed with details,
especially when we have the opportunity to discuss and engage on
substance. But we wanted to set this record straight, and express our
deep sadness about the use of such a process within the ccTLD community.

That being said, we encourage other ccTLD members and participants in
the CCWG to express their views related to the substance of the proposals.

Best,
Thomas Rickert and Mathieu Weill, co-chairs

Le 05/05/2015 11:36, Dr Eberhard Lisse a écrit :
[sorry for the double post, technical issue] Dear Byron,

as tmember appointed by the (chartering) ccNSO to the CCWG
Accountability I have followed the Charter, in particular in raising
my concerns of my points consistently being ignored and rejected by
the Co-Chairs of this CCWG, one of whom is Mathieu Weill, the posting
of whom, herein-under, I wish to address, "through the chair".

Please assure that staff forwards this to all Council Members who do
not have access to the above lists.

These "current proposals" have been arrived at in violation of the
Charter, without the necessary Consensus Call for all positions, and
in violation of the Charter by refusing the opportunity to attach
minority views.

They also have been rushed over the objection of myself in which I
have been joined in various degrees, shape or form by appointed
members of every constituency chartering, even several GAC members
expressing themselves in this regard.

This was done in order to get "something" passed prior to a non
existing deadline instead of doing this carefully, thoroughly and
inclusively.

As usual the gNSO members and in particular un-appointed participants
representing large interests were/are the driving force behind this
rush-job.

The document is so convoluted that an expensive graphics company was
hired for several months to generate these professional graphics in
order to just be able to understand the document.

Even Mathieu doesn't understand it, because he not only refers to it
as a "report" which under the Charter REQUIRES a Consensus Call and
attachment of minority views, if any, and he alleges that it has any
relevance to ccTLDs, which is has not.

The community he refers to is ill defined, and in any case the ccNSO
has no mandate whatsoever to act on decisions, acts or omissions
affecting individual ccTLDs.

According to the Charter the CCWG must address ALL accountability
issues with the exception of administrative and operational IANA
issues, which were to have been addressed by CWG Stewardship, where
they were not being addressed, of course.

This was used to refuse and/or ignore any request that had anything
to do with the root zone and/or the IANA Function, in particular the
fundamental issues, which remain unresolved.

I will post something like this into the Comment Box for the record,
but I strongly urge all ccTLD Managers to strongly oppose this
rubbish.

Finally, I am personally offended by him thanking the ccTLD members
and characterizing their participation, in particular since hardly
any input by ccTLD members/participants had any effect on ccTLD
Managers' positions, and because he does not mean it.

For me it is not a pleasure to work in this CCWG and in particular
not an honor to work with him and any other of the other Co-Chairs.

el

On 2015-05-05 07:53, Mathieu Weill wrote:
Thank you Gabi for sharing this announcement.

In addition to the public comment announcement

(https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ccwg-accountability-draft-prop
osa
l-2015-05-04-en)
the CCWG-Accountability produced some graphics describing the
current  proposals (PDF,

https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52897394/XPL_CCWG_Il
lus
tratedConcepts_v2.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1430799940397&api=v2
)  , which you might find helpful, although of course nothing
replaces  reading the actual report.

While this report is not focused on IANA, it is very relevant to
ccTLDs
: it addresses the accountability enhancements requested by the CWG
Iana  stewardship transition latest proposal, proposes additional
powers for  the community, including the ccNSO, and strongly
reinforces Icannn's  appeal mechanisms.

For more details, the CCWG-Accountability will hold two identical
webinars at different times to facilitate participation across time
zones. The webinars will take place on:

    11 May from 11:00  12:30 UTC
    11 May from 19:00  20:30 UTC

Details can be found here :
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-05-04-en

I seize this opportunity to thank all ccTLD members and participants
to this group. They have done a tremendous job, demonstrating the
value of ccTLD inputs to the overall community. As co-chair, it is a
great pleasure and an honour to work with such a team.

We are now more than ever in listening mode and look forward to your
questions and feedbacks.

Best regards,
Mathieu
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