[CCWG-ACCT] [ccTLDcommunity] Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) - Input Needed on its Proposed Accountability Enhancements (Work Stream 1)

Wed May 6 19:59:06 UTC 2015

+1

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel at gmail.com> wrote:
> +1. For Roelof's comments on captioned subject matter.
> Respect is due to all community members who participated and worked very
hard on this proposal.
> RD
>
> On May 6, 2015 11:37 AM, "Roelof Meijer" <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Dear ccTLD colleagues,
>>
>> It is with reluctance that I react to this thread, but I feel obliged to
>> do so.
>> Reluctance, because I prefer to ignore Eberhard Lisse when he sends out
>> one of his quite characteristic emails.
>> Obliged, however, because as his advice to you on how to deal with the
>> request for community feed-back on the CCWG-Accountability Work Stream 1
>> proposals published on 4 May, he "strongly urge[s] all ccTLD Managers to
>> strongly oppose this rubbish².
>>
>> I consider that to be very poor, even irresponsible, advice, and urge you
>> to read the report and give your feed-back. If you don¹t agree; let us
>> know, if you have suggestions for improvements; tell us. But above all:
>> give us guidance with your opinion on the specific issues that we ask
your
>> feed-back on in the report.
>>
>> The Enhancement of ICANN¹s Accountability is an inseparable part of the
>> IANA Stewardship Transition, a conditio sine qua non. The successful
>> transition of the IANA Stewardship is a necessity for the global, single
>> internet to develop to it¹s maximum potential.
>> However, we will not have a second chance any time soon and thus we
cannot
>> afford to fail. The final proposals to enhance ICANN¹s accountability and
>> to transition to IANA Stewardship are the ultimate test of the
>> multi-stakeholder model and failure would, in the end, mean the end of
>> that model.
>>
>> So you cannot even afford to ignore the CCWG draft proposals, or any
other
>> proposal in this process. Unless maybe if you want to get rid of the
>> multi-stakeholder model...
>>
>> Like Eberhard Lisse, I am one of the ccTLD Community¹s participants in
the
>> CCWG. Very unlike Eberhard Lisse, I am proud of what the CCWG published
on
>> 4 May. It is certainly not perfect, it surely is not complete and it is
>> definitely not final. The timeline, the enormous amount of work, the
>> unknown territories we had to explore and insights and opinions we had to
>> unite, made the process quite painful at times.
>> But the result -and in the end that is what really counts- is good. To be
>> honest: far better then I expected.
>> And quite solid enough to ask your feed-back on. So it can be improved.
>>
>> Our three co-chairs Mathieu Weill, Thomas Rickert and León Felipe
>> Sánchez-Ambia deserve no criticism, but our deep respect. For their
>> leadership and guidance, for the substance they brought and also for the
>> way they acted on feed-back from the group or individual
>> members/participants.
>> They were -and are- real assets in this process. Eberhard Lisse, in my
>> opinion, is not.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Roelof A. Meijer
>> CEO
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06-05-15 07:44, "Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr> wrote:
>>
>> >Dear Byron, Dear Colleagues,
>> >
>> >To set the record straight, Dr Lisse's statements about the violation of
>> >the CCWG Accountability Charter and the dynamics of the group are a
>> >misrepresentation of facts. Speaking of facts, we are more than happy to
>> >provide details in response to the accusations as well as explanations
>> >we gave to Dr Lisse on the public mailing list, to support our
statement.
>> >
>> >We would also note for the benefit of readers of these lists that Dr
>> >Lisse has filed countless objections against almost everything the CCWG
>> >did since it started. Participants and members of the CCWG have
>> >expressed to the co-chairs that they consider Dr Lisse's behaviour as an
>> >attempt to discredit the work of fellow volunteers and derail the work
>> >of the group.
>> >
>> >We will not burden everyone on the lists that were cc-ed with details,
>> >especially when we have the opportunity to discuss and engage on
>> >substance. But we wanted to set this record straight, and express our
>> >deep sadness about the use of such a process within the ccTLD community.
>> >
>> >That being said, we encourage other ccTLD members and participants in
>> >the CCWG to express their views related to the substance of the
proposals.
>> >
>> >Best,
>> >Thomas Rickert and Mathieu Weill, co-chairs
>> >
>> >Le 05/05/2015 11:36, Dr Eberhard Lisse a écrit :
>> >> [sorry for the double post, technical issue]
>> >> Dear Byron,
>> >>
>> >> as tmember appointed by the (chartering) ccNSO to the CCWG
>> >> Accountability I have followed the Charter, in particular in raising
>> >> my concerns of my points consistently being ignored and rejected by
>> >> the Co-Chairs of this CCWG, one of whom is Mathieu Weill, the
>> >> posting of whom, herein-under, I wish to address, "through the
>> >> chair".
>> >>
>> >> Please assure that staff forwards this to all Council Members who do
>> >> not have access to the above lists.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> These "current proposals" have been arrived at in violation of the
>> >> Charter, without the necessary Consensus Call for all positions, and
>> >> in violation of the Charter by refusing the opportunity to attach
>> >> minority views.
>> >>
>> >> They also have been rushed over the objection of myself in which I
>> >> have been joined in various degrees, shape or form by appointed
>> >> members of every constituency chartering, even several GAC members
>> >> expressing themselves in this regard.
>> >>
>> >> This was done in order to get "something" passed prior to a non
>> >> existing deadline instead of doing this carefully, thoroughly and
>> >> inclusively.
>> >>
>> >> As usual the gNSO members and in particular un-appointed
>> >> participants representing large interests were/are the driving force
>> >> behind this rush-job.
>> >>
>> >> The document is so convoluted that an expensive graphics company was
>> >> hired for several months to generate these professional graphics in
>> >> order to just be able to understand the document.
>> >>
>> >> Even Mathieu doesn't understand it, because he not only refers to it
>> >> as a "report" which under the Charter REQUIRES a Consensus Call and
>> >> attachment of minority views, if any, and he alleges that it has any
>> >> relevance to ccTLDs, which is has not.
>> >>
>> >> The community he refers to is ill defined, and in any case the ccNSO
>> >> has no mandate whatsoever to act on decisions, acts or omissions
>> >> affecting individual ccTLDs.
>> >>
>> >> According to the Charter the CCWG must address ALL accountability
>> >> issues with the exception of administrative and operational IANA
>> >> issues, which were to have been addressed by CWG Stewardship, where
>> >> they were not being addressed, of course.
>> >>
>> >> This was used to refuse and/or ignore any request that had anything
>> >> to do with the root zone and/or the IANA Function, in particular the
>> >> fundamental issues, which remain unresolved.
>> >>
>> >> I will post something like this into the Comment Box for the record,
>> >> but I strongly urge all ccTLD Managers to strongly oppose this
>> >> rubbish.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Finally, I am personally offended by him thanking the ccTLD members
>> >> and characterizing their participation, in particular since hardly
>> >> any input by ccTLD members/participants had any effect on ccTLD
>> >> Managers' positions, and because he does not mean it.
>> >>
>> >> For me it is not a pleasure to work in this CCWG and in particular
>> >> not an honor to work with him and any other of the other Co-Chairs.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> el
>> >>
>> >> On 2015-05-05 07:53, Mathieu Weill wrote:
>> >>> Thank you Gabi for sharing this announcement.
>> >>>
>> >>> In addition to the public comment announcement
>> >>>
>> >>>(
https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ccwg-accountability-draft-proposa
>> >>>l-2015-05-04-en)
>> >>> the CCWG-Accountability produced some graphics describing the current
>> >>> proposals (PDF,
>> >>>
>> >>>
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/52897394/XPL_CCWG_Illus
>> >>>tratedConcepts_v2.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1430799940397&api=v2)
>> >>> , which you might find helpful, although of course nothing replaces
>> >>> reading the actual report.
>> >>>
>> >>> While this report is not focused on IANA, it is very relevant to
ccTLDs
>> >>> : it addresses the accountability enhancements requested by the CWG
>> >>>Iana
>> >>> stewardship transition latest proposal, proposes additional powers
for
>> >>> the community, including the ccNSO, and strongly reinforces Icannn's
>> >>> appeal mechanisms.
>> >>>
>> >>> For more details, the CCWG-Accountability will hold two identical
>> >>> webinars at different times to facilitate participation across time
>> >>> zones. The webinars will take place on:
>> >>>
>> >>>      11 May from 11:00  12:30 UTC
>> >>>      11 May from 19:00  20:30 UTC
>> >>>
>> >>> Details can be found here :
>> >>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-05-04-en
>> >>>
>> >>> I seize this opportunity to thank all ccTLD members and participants
to
>> >>> this group. They have done a tremendous job, demonstrating the value
of
>> >>> ccTLD inputs to the overall community. As co-chair, it is a great
>> >>> pleasure and an honour to work with such a team.
>> >>>
>> >>> We are now more than ever in listening mode and look forward to your
>> >>> questions and feedbacks.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Mathieu
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >
>> >--
>> >*****************************
>> >Mathieu WEILL
>> >AFNIC - directeur général
>> >Tél: +33 1 39 30 83 06
>> >mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>> >Twitter : @mathieuweill
>> >*****************************
>> >
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