[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal

[Greg Shatan]

Some of the due diligence has already been done.  But a third round ob
public comments would almost certainly be in the cards.

Greg

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:

> So in essence we have a situation where the path forward, if based‎ on
> designator model, may require several steps backward to perform due
> diligence.
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> From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 3:03 PM
> To: 'Chartier, Mike S'; Paul Rosenzweig; 'James Gannon'; 'Kavouss
> Arasteh'; 'Dr Eberhard W Lisse'
> Cc: 'Lisse Eberhard'; 'Accountability Cross Community'
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal
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> Agree 100% Mike  - very important points as to process.
> Anne
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Chartier,
> Mike S
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 10:44 AM
> To: Paul Rosenzweig; 'James Gannon'; 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Dr Eberhard W
> Lisse'
> Cc: 'Lisse Eberhard'; 'Accountability Cross Community'
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal
>
> It might be the case that a non-membership model could be created that was
> acceptable and achieve consensus. However there is a fundamental difference
> in CA law between a member and a no-member org, so it's a major decision.
>
> The first draft CCWG proposal, sent for public consultation, proposed to
> change ICANN to a membership model.
> The "interim" model emerging out of BA was a potential, or "springing"
> membership model.
> The second CCWG proposal developed in Paris, and sent for a second public
> consultation was a membership model.
> In both consultations, while there were many questions, there was also
> general support for a membership model.
>
> This is not to say that the proposal eventually sent to the NTIA has to be
> a membership model, but there would seem to be a process problem in
> submitting a proposal to NTIA that was not a membership model, but was not
> vetted to the same extent that the first two proposals were.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Rosenzweig
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:52 PM
> To: 'James Gannon'; 'Kavouss Arasteh'; 'Dr Eberhard W Lisse'
> Cc: 'Lisse Eberhard'; 'Accountability Cross Community'
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal
>
> Sometimes you should "just say no."
>
> The community membership model is the core of what the community needs to
> actually enforce its interests ...
>
> Paul
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Gannon [mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net]
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:46 PM
> To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>; Dr Eberhard W Lisse
> <el at lisse.NA>
> Cc: Lisse Eberhard <directors at omadhina.net>; Accountability Cross
> Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Kavouss alternative proposal
>
> But it means we would not have a membership model no?, which would be a
> huge change.
>
> -James
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26/09/2015 17:43, "accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org on
> behalf of Kavouss Arasteh" <
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
> on behalf of kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Dear All
> >There is community mechanism through standing Panel Pls  kindly read
> >the text more carefully Kavousd
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 26 Sep 2015, at 09:32, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
> >> in short that means, there will be no Community Mechanism.
> >>
> >> el
> >>
> >>> On 2015-09-26 09:13 , Jordan Carter wrote:
> >>> here is the PDF of Kavouss' suggestion.
> >>>
> >>> Jordan
> >> [...]
> >>
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