[CCWG-ACCT] Proposed Agenda CCWG ACCT Meeting - 12 July 2016 @ 20:00 UTC
Rudolph Daniel
rudi.daniel at gmail.com
Fri Jul 15 21:38:53 UTC 2016
Amen on this one. Nuff said. I'm clear.
rd
On Friday, July 15, 2016, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
> The need and choice will vary by situation. Abstractly-defined "defaults"
> are worthless and counterproductive.
>
> If we need some information or background on ICANN-specific matters, we
> have received that from, and would continue to get that from, ICANN legal.
> When it comes to advice, it's most likely a different matter. Advice is
> given in the context of an attorney-client relationship where the attorney
> considers the position, interests and goals of their client and acts in
> accordance with those and their duty to that client. Advice and
> interpretation will vary depending on who your client is and what their
> concerns and desired outcomes are. In these cases, I think (without making
> it a default) we are much more likely to turn to our independent outside
> counsel. Indeed, I'm hard-pressed to think of situations in which we
> wouldn't. Drafting documents is a third situation, and the
> "back-and-forth" method used on the legal documents to date is probably the
> only sensible way to deal with that (no matter who drafts first).
>
> That said, I'm all in favor of fiscal restraint. There are a number of
> ways we can make our use of counsel cost-effective without turning to the
> counsel to the corporation we are trying to hold accountable. I'm quite
> certain that our counsel at Sidley and Adler have a number of ideas about
> how we can contain costs, especially after having worked with us for so
> long. We should invite them to provide written and oral suggestions on
> that subject, as soon as possible.
>
> Finally, if anyone has forgotten why we strongly felt the need for
> independent counsel at the beginning of this journey, please go back and
> read the materials from that time. If you disagreed then, and disagreed
> now, just say so, but let's not rehash. If someone who thought we needed
> independent counsel then thinks the circumstances have so drastically
> changed that we no longer need independent counsel, that might be an
> interesting point for discussion. The rest of this is just going around in
> circles....
>
> Greg
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Rudolph Daniel <rudi.daniel at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rudi.daniel at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> There would seem to be an issue with "default" is there any substantive
>> difference if we consider independent legal council "default" with the
>> availability of icann inhouse legal services to compliment . That would
>> also suggest the need for fiscal restraint
>> rd
>>
>>
>> Rudi Daniel
>> *danielcharles consulting
>> <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774>*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seun.ojedeji at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> By default means always considering use of ICANN legal staff first
>>> before going independent. I don't think this should require a dialout as I
>>> think we all agree that CCWG should have access to independent legal
>>> whenever required.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Sent from my LG G4
>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>
>>> On 15 Jul 2016 19:00, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','farzaneh.badii at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No. Using the independent legal advisers *responsibly* does not mean
>>>> that we have to have a default approach.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what the next steps would be on this issue. Perhaps co-chairs
>>>> can help us on this ? Are we going to have a call and discuss this and come
>>>> up with a solution?
>>>>
>>>> On 15 July 2016 at 19:46, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seun.ojedeji at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 on ensuring access to independent legal adviser whenever required
>>>>> by CCWG. This would imply referring to internal legal(staff) by default and
>>>>> then call for independent legal advice whenever the group sense there is
>>>>> need for clarification (or when the issues at hand is warranted).
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Sent from my LG G4
>>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 Jul 2016 13:19, "James M. Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jbladel at godaddy.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree with Keith.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CCWG must preserve the use of independent legal advisors, but use
>>>>>> this responsibly, and with an eye on controlling costs. Ultimately, it is
>>>>>> gTLD registrants picking up the bill, and we need to ensure that this work
>>>>>> is mindful of their interests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks—
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>>
>>>>>> on behalf of Keith Drazek <kdrazek at verisign.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kdrazek at verisign.com');>>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 16:53
>>>>>> To: Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','psc at vlaw-dc.com');>>, Matthew Shears <
>>>>>> mshears at cdt.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mshears at cdt.org');>>,
>>>>>> Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>>, Robin
>>>>>> Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','robin at ipjustice.org');>>
>>>>>> Cc: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community at icann.org');>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed Agenda CCWG ACCT Meeting - 12 July
>>>>>> 2016 @ 20:00 UTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed. Access to independent legal advice was never in question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, in the interest of controlling costs, I have no problem
>>>>>> seeking input from ICANN’s internal lawyers on issues that are deemed
>>>>>> non-contentious or where potential conflicts do not exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am obligated to report that the Registries Stakeholder Group is
>>>>>> very, very concerned about the cost of legal fees from WS1 and wants to
>>>>>> ensure the CCWG is efficient with its future spending. I know we’re
>>>>>> developing cost-control mechanisms for WS2, and I’ve advised my SG
>>>>>> accordingly, but this will continue to receive attention from the RySG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holly’s question and the response about budgeting vis-à-vis ICANN’s
>>>>>> outside counsel was instructive. Any and all outside counsel expenses will
>>>>>> require certification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, let me reiterate my view…the CCWG must have access to independent
>>>>>> legal advice. We must ensure costs are controlled and resources are used
>>>>>> efficiently. If that means selectively turning to ICANN’s lawyers on
>>>>>> occasion, I can and do support that, but not at the expense of our ability
>>>>>> to seek independent advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>
>>>>>> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>]
>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Phil Corwin
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 14, 2016 5:34 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Matthew Shears; Greg Shatan; Robin Gross
>>>>>> *Cc:* Accountability Cross Community
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed Agenda CCWG ACCT Meeting - 12
>>>>>> July 2016 @ 20:00 UTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Access to independent legal advice for WS2 issues is fundamental and
>>>>>> should be non-negotiable
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use your power, Empowered Community
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>>>>>> Virtualaw LLC
>>>>>> 1155 F Street NW
>>>>>> Suite 1050
>>>>>> Washington, DC 20004
>>>>>> 202-559-8597/Direct
>>>>>> 202-559-8750/Fax
>>>>>> 202-255-6172/Cell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @VlawDC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Luck is the residue of design" --- Branch Rickey
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*mshears at cdt.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mshears at cdt.org');>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Sent:*July 14, 2016 5:26 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:*gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>;
>>>>>> robin at ipjustice.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','robin at ipjustice.org');>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Cc:*accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community at icann.org');>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:*Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed Agenda CCWG ACCT Meeting - 12
>>>>>> July 2016 @ 20:00 UTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + 1 well said Robin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/07/2016 03:20, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agree 100%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','robin at ipjustice.org');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is simply a non-starter to suggest that CCWG would lose its right
>>>>>> to independent counsel at this stage. I am struggling to understand
>>>>>> *where* the suggestion to start this debate all over again even came from.
>>>>>> We have very important issues on our agenda for WorkStream 2 that require
>>>>>> independence of legal advice: transparency of board deliberations,
>>>>>> reforming the DIDP, the CEP, etc., which all involve trying to reform the
>>>>>> policies that were created by the in-house legal dept. It is silly to
>>>>>> suggest that we must seek the legal advice from those who created the
>>>>>> policies we are trying to reform as that would be counter-productive to our
>>>>>> goals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally it was revealed in yesterday’s calls, that ICANN’s legal
>>>>>> dept fees will be added to the CCWG’s independent fees, so CCWG will be
>>>>>> billed for the in-house efforts to resist our reforms (and we won’t be
>>>>>> given access to the legal advice that we would be paying for). I think it
>>>>>> is extremely important the legal fees NOT be conflated together. We need
>>>>>> to understand what the separate costs are, and we cannot be held
>>>>>> responsible for spending on Jones Day that is outside of our control. Fees
>>>>>> that ICANN corporate undertakes must be separated from fees that CCWG
>>>>>> undertakes or the proposed budget process makes absolutely no sense, unless
>>>>>> it was intended to tie CCWG’s hands and give ICANN corporate a blank check
>>>>>> to spend resisting our reforms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an important issue that we cannot roll over on, or everything
>>>>>> else we try to do from here on out will be of questionable value. This
>>>>>> settled debate should not be re-opened, despite the huge win for ICANN
>>>>>> corporate if were to succeed in over-turning this group’s previous decision
>>>>>> on this critical matter of independence of legal advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Jul 13, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Niels ten Oever <
>>>>>> lists at nielstenoever.net
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lists at nielstenoever.net');>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Also +1 to Greg and +1 to James
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 07/13/2016 10:50 PM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
>>>>>> >> Thanks, Greg. +1. Fully agree.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> CCWG shall retain the ability to ask for independent advice. Also
>>>>>> agree
>>>>>> >> that continuing with Sidley Austin and Adler & Colvin is the best
>>>>>> option.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> + 1 also to James previous email about not reopening the debate.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Best,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Tanya
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 13/07/16 22:42, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Siva,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The reasons are all in the record. Please go back and read all
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> >>> materials and discussions relating to our desire and choice to
>>>>>> hire
>>>>>> >>> independent counsel. If you have any specific questions after
>>>>>> that,
>>>>>> >>> please ask them.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I will briefly say the following:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 1. This has nothing to do with competence, although being
>>>>>> generally
>>>>>> >>> competent and competent in a specific area are two different
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 2. Where we needed first-hand knowledge or history, we've turned
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> >>> ICANN legal as one source for such things. That won't change.
>>>>>> Advice
>>>>>> >>> is another thing entirely.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 3. Ask yourself "Who is ICANN legal's client?" and you will have
>>>>>> >>> answered your own question.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Greg
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016, Sivasubramanian M <
>>>>>> isolatedn at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','isolatedn at gmail.com');>
>>>>>> >>> <mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','isolatedn at gmail.com');>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Greg,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> How valid are your assumptions? What are the reasons for this
>>>>>> >>> unwillingness to make use of ICANN Legal, who are competent,
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> >>> first hand knowledge and a complete understanding of the legal
>>>>>> >>> nuances on matters concerning ICANN, may I ask? Saves money on
>>>>>> >>> most matters requiring legal advice, and should there be areas
>>>>>> >>> that require specialized advice, we could seek external advice.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Greg Shatan
>>>>>> >>> <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>
>>>>>> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>');>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I object, and I think many others objected, to the idea
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>> advice from inhouse (i.e., ICANN legal) should be the
>>>>>> >>> "default." We retained independent counsel to the CCWG for
>>>>>> >>> good reason
>>>>>> >>> s
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> and those reasons are still applicable today. I hope we
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> >>> need to rehash that.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> We need the continued ability and discretion to go
>>>>>> directly to
>>>>>> >>> CCWG's counsel. Requesting inhouse to solicit an opinion
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> >>> an external counsel is not only "cumbersome," it's
>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>> antithetical to the relationship between CCWG and its
>>>>>> >>> independent counsel.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I strongly believe that the "default" must be the status
>>>>>> quo,
>>>>>> >>> i.e., that the CCWG (through reasonable processes) has the
>>>>>> >>> ability and discretion to turn to its own counsel.
>>>>>> Further, I
>>>>>> >>> strongly believe that CCWG's independent counsel must
>>>>>> remain
>>>>>> >>> Sidley Austin and Adler & Colvin. They have been up a
>>>>>> >>> tremendous learning curve and worked with us every step of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> way. It would be folly to cast that aside. It's worth
>>>>>> noting
>>>>>> >>> that Sidley is a full-service law firm with offices outside
>>>>>> >>> the US in Beijing, Brussels, Geneva, Hong Kong, London,
>>>>>> >>> Munich, Shanghai, Singapore, Sydney and Tokyo. I'm
>>>>>> confident
>>>>>> >>> that Sidley (and Adler) will (a) tell us when they don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> >>> the expertise to help us, and (b) work with us on working
>>>>>> >>> methods to make our use of the firms more cost-effective.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Greg
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Rudolph Daniel
>>>>>> >>> <rudi.daniel at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rudi.daniel at gmail.com');>
>>>>>> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rudi.daniel at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rudi.daniel at gmail.com');>');>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Based on comments on the call today, IMO; A good body
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> >>> knowledge was accquired on the subject of legal
>>>>>> requests
>>>>>> >>> in wg1. WG2 legal resources would be both inhouse and
>>>>>> >>> external, from start, We should be much more efficient
>>>>>> >>> this time around. Each sub however will have their
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>> >>> and there may be requests applicable across the
>>>>>> subgroups
>>>>>> >>> and/or specific to a subgroup.
>>>>>> >>> So, that suggests close relationship between budget
>>>>>> >>> control and the former legal request team [reconfigured
>>>>>> >>> and/or augmented] who would have to coordinate requests
>>>>>> >>> across ws2 sub
>>>>>> >>> groups as i see it.
>>>>>> >>> What determines the initial choice inhouse/external
>>>>>> >>> resources may be a matter of consensus, but it may be
>>>>>> >>> prudent to consider the process as [default] inhouse
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >>> the flexible and necessary option of external sources
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> >>> consensus [as the fog clears so to speak]. I think it
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> >>> be cumbersome to request inhouse to solicit an opinion
>>>>>> >>> from an external, because there may arise an instance
>>>>>> >>> where; on the strength of an opinion, [inhouse or
>>>>>> >>> external] ; a wg2 may wish to reframe and seek
>>>>>> >>> alternative advise elswhere.
>>>>>> >>> rd
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Rudi Daniel
>>>>>> >>> /danielcharles consulting
>>>>>> >>> <
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774
>>>>>> >/
>>>>>> >>> *
>>>>>> >>> *
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Vinay Kesari
>>>>>> >>> <vinay.kesari at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vinay.kesari at gmail.com');>
>>>>>> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vinay.kesari at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vinay.kesari at gmail.com');>');>>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Dear all,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I was unfortunately unable to join the call as I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> >>> on a flight at the time, my apologies. I've just
>>>>>> had a
>>>>>> >>> chance to catch up on the Adobe Connect recording,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>> I'm happy to reconfirm my willingness and
>>>>>> availability
>>>>>> >>> to serve as a rapporteur. Also, I agree with the
>>>>>> >>> thrust of Kavouss' comment at 0:24:30, and affirm
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> >>> commitment to serve impartially. I look forward to
>>>>>> >>> working with Greg on the jurisdiction subgroup.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Separately, on the issue of allocation of legal
>>>>>> >>> requests, I agree that we need further discussion,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>> endorse creating an Option 3 based on the points
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> >>> and the specific requirements of the different WS2
>>>>>> >>> subgroups.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>> Vinay
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On 12 July 2016 at 20:55, Mathieu Weill
>>>>>> >>> <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>
>>>>>> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
>>>>>> mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mathieu.weill at afnic.fr');>');>>
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Attached is a short set of slides to support
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> >>> discussion on agenda item #4
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Talk to you in a few hours
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Mathieu
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> *De :*
>>>>>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>
>>>>>> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
>>>>>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>>>>>> ');>
>>>>>> >>> [mailto:
>>>>>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org');>
>>>>>> >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
>>>>>> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
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>>>>>> ');>]
>>>>>> >>> *De la part de* MSSI Secretariat
>>>>>> >>> *Envoyé :* lundi 11 juillet 2016 19:46
>>>>>> >>> *À :* CCWG-Accountability
>>>>>> >>> *Objet :* [CCWG-ACCT] Proposed Agenda CCWG ACCT
>>>>>> >>> Meeting - 12 July 2016 @ 20:00 UTC
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Good day all,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> In preparation for your call, CCWG
>>>>>> Accountability
>>>>>> >>> WS2 Meeting #2
>>>>>> >>> <https://community.icann.org/x/FyOOAw>–
>>>>>> Tuesday,
>>>>>> >>> 12 July @ 20:00 – 22:00 UTC. Time zone
>>>>>> converter
>>>>>> >>> here
>>>>>> >>> <
>>>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CCWG+Accountability+Meeting&iso=20160712T20&p1=1440&ah=2
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> *Proposed Agenda:*
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 1. Welcome, SOI
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 2.
>>>>>> >>> Articles of Incorporation : finalize
>>>>>> submission
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 3.
>>>>>> >>> Appointment of rapporteurs for WS2 – next
>>>>>> steps
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 4.
>>>>>> >>> Legal Cost Control Mechanism : initial
>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 5. AOB
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> 6. Closing
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> *Adobe Connect:
>>>>>> >>> *
>>>>>> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/
>>>>>> >>> <
>>>>>> https://icann.adobeconnect.com/accountability/>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Thank you!
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> With kind regards,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Brenda Brewer
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> MSSI Projects & Operations Assistant
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> ICANN-**Internet Corporation for Assigned Names
>>>>>> >>> and Numbers
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
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