[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Preparing for WS2

Mon May 30 16:22:51 UTC 2016

Dear all,

I agree with Greg. Drafting might be an issue for some, of course, but
the absence of transcriptions is a much bigger problem. Many of us are
volunteering at ICANN while having a full time job, hence missing calls
is unfortunately inevitable sometimes. With no transcripts every missed
call is a big deal. I understand that action notes can ensure where
things stand, but transcriptions might be helpful when there is a need
to get back and check.

So this is very unfortunate.

Best regards

Tanya

On 30/05/16 18:14, Greg Shatan wrote:
> I'm more concerned about a different area of (lack of) support:
>
> "No note taking by staff, beyond action items, and no transcriptions."
>
> This will make it more difficult to keep the thread of our work going
> from week to week.
>
> I think we may have relied too heavily on staff drafting of the actual
> report in Work Stream 1.  While I don't necessarily relish substantial
> drafting responsibilities, it's important that the end product be the
> work of the community.  The staff (and in particular Bernie) did an
> amazing job, but it still felt like an odd "intermediation" at times.
>
> Meeting notes and transcriptions are important tools in getting to
> that point.  Hopefully, the action items will be sufficiently detailed
> to allow a meeting's results to be comprehensible to those that miss
> that call, but something will be lost when the sole record of that
> meeting is a recording and a bullet-point list of "action items."
>
> Greg
>
> Greg
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Finn Petersen <FinPet at erst.dk
> <mailto:FinPet at erst.dk>> wrote:
>
>     I fully support the idea from Jorge.
>
>      
>
>     Best,
>
>      
>
>     Finn
>
>      
>
>     *Fra:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] *På
>     vegne af *Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch
>     <mailto:Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch>
>     *Sendt:* 30. maj 2016 12:13
>     *Til:* turcotte.bernard at gmail.com
>     <mailto:turcotte.bernard at gmail.com>;
>     accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>     *Emne:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Preparing for WS2
>
>      
>
>     Dear co-chairs, dear all
>
>      
>
>     I was finally having a look at these documents and an apparent
>     inconsistency struck my eye: on the one hand, it is foreseen that
>     the subgroups will do the „heavy lifting“ including drafting etc..
>     But, on the other hand, the subgroup members are expected to draft
>     their own documents.
>
>      
>
>     This could delegate and impose probably too much of a burden on
>     the volunteers and have also undesired side-effects on the
>     inclusiveness and diversity of the subgroups and their outputs, as
>     drafting is not only extremely time intensive –a resource which is
>     unequally distributed- but also requires native or near-native
>     English writing skills.
>
>      
>
>     Hence, I would advocate a more balanced approach, with our
>     professional and neutral staff still taking care of the drafting
>     of each subgroups’ key documents (e.g. initial issues description,
>     scoping paper, draft output docs, output doc, etc) as a general
>     rule – with subgroup participants taking over documents that have
>     a more contingent/ad hoc character.
>
>      
>
>     Hope this may be agreeable to all
>
>      
>
>     Best
>
>      
>
>     Jorge
>
>      
>
>     *Von:*accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] *Im
>     Auftrag von *Bernard Turcotte
>     *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 25. Mai 2016 18:21
>     *An:* Accountability Cross Community
>     <accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>     <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
>     *Betreff:* [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - Preparing for WS2
>
>      
>
>     Dear all,
>
>      
>
>     As the work on the Bylaws comes to a close, we have spent some
>     time preparing and thinking through Work Stream 2. Our official
>     Work Stream 2 kick-off is on Sunday 26 June at ICANN56 in
>     Helsinki. To prepare for the kick off, we would like to have a
>     plenary CCWG-Accountability next week on Tuesday 31 May at 19:00
>     UTC. The proposed agenda for the call is as follows:
>
>      
>
>     *Agenda for CCWG meeting on 31 May at 19:00 UTC:*
>
>     1. Opening Remarks
>
>     2. Budget discussion
>
>     3. Preparation for WS2 kickoff in Helsinki
>
>     ·         What to do before Helsinki
>
>     ·         What are next steps (after Helsinki)
>
>     4. AOB
>
>     5. Closing Remarks
>
>      
>
>     Attached you will find a presentation on the budget that we have
>     prepared with the help of Bernard Turcotte and ICANN staff in
>     their Project Costing Support Team function. We will need to
>     submit this budget to the ICANN Board for their consideration and
>     approval before the start of FY17 in July. As you will see from
>     the presentation, there are a few areas that we may want to
>     discuss as a full group before submitting our proposal. Please
>     initiate the discussion on the CCWG-Accountability list, and we’ll
>     continue the discussion on the call.
>
>      
>
>     You will also find attached a presentation on preparing the WS2
>     kickoff in Helsinki.
>
>      
>
>     Best,
>
>     Mathieu, Thomas, Leon
>
>     /CCWG-Accountability co-Chairs/
>
>
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