[arabic-vip] Agenda for Conference Call 2

Andrew Sullivan ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
Mon Jul 11 15:50:19 UTC 2011


Dear colleagues,

I'm assuming that I'm not actually needed for this session.  If you
think I will be, please let me know.

Thanks,

Andrew

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 08:37:14PM -0700, Sarmad Hussain wrote:
> Thanks Baher.
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Let us follow the agenda circulated earlier (re-posted below for
> convenience), as we were not able to go through it completely.  We should
> close our discussion on 1. And move to other items.
> 
> Regards,
> Sarmad
> 
> 
> 1.	Brainstorming requirements/issues related to Arabic variants 
> 
> What are variants in Arabic script?
> A1.1.1 Unicode code points having same shape in at least one of the four
> forms (beginning, middle, final and isolated)
> A1.1.2 composed and decomposed forms not covered through Unicode which are
> exactly same
> A1.2.1 Unicode code points have shape similar enough that user will get
> confused and accept them equal (causing security threat, e.g. phishing)
> A1.2.1.1 similar shapes
> A1.2.1.2 similar marks 
> A1.2.2 composed and decomposed forms same enough to cause user confusion
> (causing security threat, e.g. phishing)
> A1.3.1 conflating level 2 marks (less significance, higher optionality)
> (e.g. fatha)
> A1.3.2 conflating level 1 marks  (higher significance, lower optionality)
> (e.g. hamza above/below)
> A1.3.3 conflating level 0(?) marks  (highest significance, no optionality)
> (e.g. double-fatha) (could this be A 2.1?)
> 
> Interestingly, it can be argued that A1.3.x is a label level variance
> instead of character level variance, which is an interesting concept, but is
> not quite similar to A.2 suggested below but somewhere in between A.1 and
> A.2, as Arabic writing system (Abjad) works differently in some ways that
> Alphabetical systems like Latin.
> 
> AX 1.1 There is also label level variance in a few cases, where technically
> ZWNJ is licensed by protocol (and should be licensed in spirit) but the
> changed shape is so slightly different that it is not perceptible and may
> cause security threats (e.g. phishing).  
> What are other possible requirements/issues/complications?
> -	TLD Delegation - delegation vs. blocking vs. reservation - change of
> status
> -	DNSSEC
> -	Registry operations
> -	Others?
> 
> 2.	Outline/format of the report 
> 
> Option 1
> - issues of relevance to ICANN/IANA
> - issues of relevance to registries/registrars
> - issues of relevance to registrants
> - issues of relevance of end-users
> 
> Option 2
> - What is a variant in Arabic script (see the email below)
> - How to represent variants formally (table related issues)
> - TLD vs. other level variants in Arabic - what is applicable level wise
> - Variant TLD delegation
> - Variant TLD registration 
> - Variant TLD resolution
> - Variants and user experience
> 
> Others?
> 3.	Weekly Schedule of work and deliverables
> 4.	Conference call schedule
> 5.	Face-to-face meeting
> 6.	Other items?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-
> > bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Baher Esmat
> > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:02 PM
> > To: Manal Ismail; arabic-vip at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] Doodle Poll
> > 
> > I'm organizing the call for tomorrow Tuesday 12 July 7am UTC. Will send
> > call
> > details shortly.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Baher
> > 
> > 
> > On 7/9/11 11:06 PM, "Manal Ismail" <manal at tra.gov.eg> wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear all ..
> > >
> > > Can we please try to fix the conference call slot in order to be able
> > to fix
> > > other commitments during the week ..
> > >
> > > Kind Regards
> > >
> > > --Manal
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org on behalf of baher.esmat
> > > Sent: Mon 04/07/2011 06:35 PM
> > > To: arabic-vip at icann.org
> > > Subject: [arabic-vip] Doodle Poll
> > >
> > >
> > > As requested: http://doodle.com/8zzpi7u8dy83zr3c
> > >
> > > -baher
> 
> 

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Andrew Sullivan
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