[arabic-vip] Agenda for Conference Call 2

[Andrew Sullivan]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 08:55:54PM -0700, Sarmad Hussain wrote:
> Dear Andrew,
> 
> Thanks for re-checking.  It would be great if you could join this time as we
> will be discussing other issues in more detail.  

Ok.  Are there particular issues I need to concentrate on in advance?
07:00 UTC is 03:00 EDT (which is where I will be tonight), so I'll
need to prepare in advance if I am to make any sense!



> 
> Regards,
> Sarmad
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-
> > bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan
> > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:50 AM
> > To: arabic-vip at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] Agenda for Conference Call 2
> > 
> > Dear colleagues,
> > 
> > I'm assuming that I'm not actually needed for this session.  If you
> > think I will be, please let me know.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Andrew
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 08:37:14PM -0700, Sarmad Hussain wrote:
> > > Thanks Baher.
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Let us follow the agenda circulated earlier (re-posted below for
> > > convenience), as we were not able to go through it completely.  We
> > should
> > > close our discussion on 1. And move to other items.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sarmad
> > >
> > >
> > > 1.	Brainstorming requirements/issues related to Arabic variants
> > >
> > > What are variants in Arabic script?
> > > A1.1.1 Unicode code points having same shape in at least one of the
> > four
> > > forms (beginning, middle, final and isolated)
> > > A1.1.2 composed and decomposed forms not covered through Unicode
> > which are
> > > exactly same
> > > A1.2.1 Unicode code points have shape similar enough that user will
> > get
> > > confused and accept them equal (causing security threat, e.g.
> > phishing)
> > > A1.2.1.1 similar shapes
> > > A1.2.1.2 similar marks
> > > A1.2.2 composed and decomposed forms same enough to cause user
> > confusion
> > > (causing security threat, e.g. phishing)
> > > A1.3.1 conflating level 2 marks (less significance, higher
> > optionality)
> > > (e.g. fatha)
> > > A1.3.2 conflating level 1 marks  (higher significance, lower
> > optionality)
> > > (e.g. hamza above/below)
> > > A1.3.3 conflating level 0(?) marks  (highest significance, no
> > optionality)
> > > (e.g. double-fatha) (could this be A 2.1?)
> > >
> > > Interestingly, it can be argued that A1.3.x is a label level variance
> > > instead of character level variance, which is an interesting concept,
> > but is
> > > not quite similar to A.2 suggested below but somewhere in between A.1
> > and
> > > A.2, as Arabic writing system (Abjad) works differently in some ways
> > that
> > > Alphabetical systems like Latin.
> > >
> > > AX 1.1 There is also label level variance in a few cases, where
> > technically
> > > ZWNJ is licensed by protocol (and should be licensed in spirit) but
> > the
> > > changed shape is so slightly different that it is not perceptible and
> > may
> > > cause security threats (e.g. phishing).
> > > What are other possible requirements/issues/complications?
> > > -	TLD Delegation - delegation vs. blocking vs. reservation - change
> > of
> > > status
> > > -	DNSSEC
> > > -	Registry operations
> > > -	Others?
> > >
> > > 2.	Outline/format of the report
> > >
> > > Option 1
> > > - issues of relevance to ICANN/IANA
> > > - issues of relevance to registries/registrars
> > > - issues of relevance to registrants
> > > - issues of relevance of end-users
> > >
> > > Option 2
> > > - What is a variant in Arabic script (see the email below)
> > > - How to represent variants formally (table related issues)
> > > - TLD vs. other level variants in Arabic - what is applicable level
> > wise
> > > - Variant TLD delegation
> > > - Variant TLD registration
> > > - Variant TLD resolution
> > > - Variants and user experience
> > >
> > > Others?
> > > 3.	Weekly Schedule of work and deliverables
> > > 4.	Conference call schedule
> > > 5.	Face-to-face meeting
> > > 6.	Other items?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-
> > > > bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Baher Esmat
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:02 PM
> > > > To: Manal Ismail; arabic-vip at icann.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] Doodle Poll
> > > >
> > > > I'm organizing the call for tomorrow Tuesday 12 July 7am UTC. Will
> > send
> > > > call
> > > > details shortly.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Baher
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/9/11 11:06 PM, "Manal Ismail" <manal at tra.gov.eg> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear all ..
> > > > >
> > > > > Can we please try to fix the conference call slot in order to be
> > able
> > > > to fix
> > > > > other commitments during the week ..
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > --Manal
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org on behalf of baher.esmat
> > > > > Sent: Mon 04/07/2011 06:35 PM
> > > > > To: arabic-vip at icann.org
> > > > > Subject: [arabic-vip] Doodle Poll
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As requested: http://doodle.com/8zzpi7u8dy83zr3c
> > > > >
> > > > > -baher
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
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> > ajs at crankycanuck.ca
> 

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