[arabic-vip] Singapore

Manal Ismail manal at tra.gov.eg
Tue Jun 14 07:43:40 UTC 2011


Thank you Sarmad ..

I agree with you that the time is tight and that we may not be able to
discuss everything with the required level of details in our
face-to-face meeting ..

I hope we can try to progress as much online as my experience with
conference calls is not always very positive ..

On a first reading, I've nothing to add to the agenda below but I've
inserted a few remarks inline below ..

 

Kind Regards ..

 

--Manal 

 

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On Behalf Of Dr. Sarmad Hussain
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:11 PM
To: arabic-vip at icann.org
Subject: [arabic-vip] Singapore

 

Dear All,

 

It was good to have most of you on the call today.  As per our
discussion, here are the five items for the Singapore meeting.  We have
two 1.5 hour slots for this agenda.   This is short time so we may have
to skip or cut short some of the tasks which may take longer discussion
and bring them to the conference calls or online discussion.  

 

1.       Glossary

-          discuss the definitions developed by IDN VIP in the context
of Arabic script

-          identify additional items for glossary relevant to Arabic

 

Manal: Indeed this is very important .. I believe we should be clear in
highlighting where the term 'Variant' is from other terms such as
'Confusingly similar' and 'Defensive Registrations' .. will there be an
overall definition at the end abstracted from the different case study
definitions ?  

 

2.       Experiences of existing ccTLDs

-          Variant related issues (need volunteers from the team who
have experience in this context)

 

Manal: This would be very useful .. unfortunately, in Egypt, we don't
have yet a sound experience in Variants handling as we have not yet
launched the Landrush phase .. 

 

3.       List known issues (here is an initial list from earlier
discussions at ASIWG and other forums: see Arabic script presentation at
http://svsf40.icann.org/node/22193 for details and examples; please
add/delete/edit/comment)

-          Technical 

o   Required  combining marks - extra Unicode normalization

o   Optional combining marks - 

o   Same shape in a particular position

o   Similar shape in a particular position

o   Digits

o   Joining characters - ZWNJ

 

Manal: Thanks for the useful summary .. Does 'Optional combining marks'
in bullet 2 above refer to 'Diacritics' ? 

 

-          User Interface

o   Input method variation

o   Bidirectional rendering issues in applications

o   General rendering issues in applications - writing styles - Naskh
vs. Nastalique, etc.

-          Policy

o   Specification of language table

o   Bundling, blocking, reserving 

 

Manal: I believe we also have to tackle 'Automated vs. Requested'
bundling, blocking, reserving .. in other words are there cases where
bundling, blocking, reserving will be mandatory implemented for security
reasons ?  

 

4.       Deliverables

-          Identify the list of things to do

-          Volunteers for various tasks identified

-          Develop any sub-teams, if needed

 

Manal: I suggest we add 'Timeline' to the title above to read
'Deliverables & Timeline' and that we try to locate the deliverables
identified to a timeline we agree on and of course fitting within the
overall timeline of the whole project ..    

 

5.       Schedule 

-          frequency and timings of conference calls 

-          schedule of face to face meetings

o   September (or earlier)? Location?

o   October (Senegal) co-located with ICANN 42 (finalize date(s))

 

Would like to hear comments on these or other items, as we all develop
the agenda for Singapore.

 

I am also attaching some documents which have been shared on ASIWG lists
in this context in the past (see http://www.asiwg.org/wiki/Main_Page as
well).  This is get you familiarized with different issues already
identified.  Again please feel free to share any further comments.  

 

Regards,
Sarmad

 

 

----

Dr. Sarmad Hussain

Professor and Head

Center for Language Engineering (www.cle.org.pk) 

Al-Khawarizmi Institute of Computer Sciences (www.kics.edu.pk)

University of Engineering and Technology (www.uet.edu.pk)

G.T. Road, Lahore

PAKISTAN

 

 

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