[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply to CCWG-AP

[Daniel Dardailler]

On 2017-09-05 17:17, Erika Mann wrote:
> Indeed, we don't even need to discuss this topic further.

I agree it's out of scope.

Can we just be pointed to the place where these application fees refund 
discussions are happening  ? (e.g. in another ICANN group). Thanks.

> 
> Erika
> 
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Jon Nevett <jon at donuts.email> wrote:
> 
>> Sean:  No refunds from the auction proceeds were committed to or
>> anticipated. Not sure where this idea is coming from. Jon
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:13 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 to that Alberto line of reasoning Alberto. Though it will be good
>> to know if ICANN has indeed legally committed (as per contract) to
>> provide some refunds from auction proceed.
>> 
>> If that is the case i don't think its something within our scope to
>> challenge we will just then need to clarify from ICANN how much is
>> really available and accessible in the auction proceeds account.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Alberto Soto
>> <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
>> do not know how the signed contract is. I do not know if the return
>> is
>> correct. Whoever buys a restaurant and does not get profitability
>> does so at
>> their own risk. Who buys a domain and does not obtain profitability,
>> does so
>> at their own risk. ICANN should not be the guarantee if no
>> profitability is
>> obtained.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Alberto
>> 
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org
>> [mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org] En nombre de Daniel
>> Dardailler
>> Enviado el: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:56 AM
>> Para: John R. Levine <johnl at iecc.com>
>> CC: ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org
>> Asunto: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] lotsa money, was Fwd: Board reply
>> to
>> CCWG-AP
>> 
>> On 2017-09-04 23:48, John R. Levine wrote:
>>>> Is the current financial position of ICANN really an impediment
>> to
>>>> what ICANN wants to do in support of its mission ? I was under
>> the
>>>> impression that ICANN's budget was healthy enough to implement
>> its
>>>> mission optimally today, with also a large untouched pot coming
>> from
>>>> the new gTLD application process (unused legal costs if I
>> understand
>>>> correctly).
>>> 
>>> Not really.  ICANN's operating budget is fully committed.  There
>> is
>>> indeed a lot of unspent new gTLD application money, but it's a
>> whole
>>> separate can of worms.  It's not ours to spend and since ICANN
>> said
>>> the price was set to cover their costs, the obvious and ethical
>> thing
>>> to do will be to refund the excess to the applicants.
>> 
>> I kind of agree with the ethical part (although I haven't read the
>> contract
>> those applicants signed and what was promised in writing) but is it
>> really
>> going to be obvious to refund hundreds of applicants, some of them
>> potentially gone as a business ?
>> 
>>> 
>>> R's,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> PS:
>>>> How is it different to give away the funds to the ICANN community
>>>> (for projects aligned with the ICANN mission) vs. to give them
>> back
>>>> to the board directly, given that the board is driven by the
>> community ?
>>> 
>>> Well, actually, it's the board's money to give away, not ours.
>> We're
>>> just offering them advice.
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