[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER - Deadline Thursday, 28 May - minority statements

Mon May 25 16:46:26 UTC 2020

Thank you for being able to accept this, Judith!

Wishing you a good day,
Erika

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 5:51 PM Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
wrote:

> HI Emily,
>
> Thanks so much for your clarification. It does help.  I guess like Maureen
> I am resigned to accepting the consensus definition as it is what is in the
> charter and we cannot go back to change things now.
>
> Thanks again to you, Erika, and Ching for all your great work on this
> document
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
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> On 5/25/2020 11:02 AM, Emily Barabas wrote:
>
> Hi Judith,
>
>
>
> Thanks for your response and this additional input. As Erika mentioned in
> her response to Maureen, the definition of consensus is included in the
> charter, so this is not a definition we can change.
>
>
>
> As a point of clarification, the consensus level designation refers
> specifically to the level of support for the text of the recommendations. The
> consensus level designation is not intended to directly reflect the results
> of the poll. Rather, the poll was a tool to inform drafting of the
> recommendation text. In the case of recommendation 1, “consensus” support
> means that the following is a position where a small minority disagrees,
> but most agree:
>
>
>
> “The CCWG recommends that the Board select either mechanism A or
> mechanism B for the allocation of auction proceeds, taking into account the
> preference expressed by CCWG members for mechanism A . . . ”
>
>
>
> Does the above clarification address your concerns, and if not, can you
> kindly advise if there is something else the CCWG can do to accommodate
> your concerns?
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Emily
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein
> <judith at jhellerstein.com> <judith at jhellerstein.com>
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> <judith at jhellerstein.com> <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 25 May 2020 at 16:40
> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER - Deadline Thursday, 28
> May - minority statements
>
>
>
> HI Emily,
>
> I agree with Maureen on this statement. I do not like the word Small in
> the definition. Is there another way to describe this as the definition in
> the charter of consensus is not what we have here? On all other
> recommendations we can use the word consensus but not on the mechanism
> chosen
>
> If looking at the poll results. We see that 7 people voted for A, 4 for B
> and 3 for C so it seem that there were an equal number of votes for 'NOT" A
> as there were votes "FOR" A thus we cannot say a small majority disagree.
> We can only say that there was a preference for Mechanism A but that there
> was an equal preference for not A.
>
> So we cannot say there is a consensus on the type of mechanism, we can say
> there is a preference?
>
> Thanks
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> On 5/25/2020 5:35 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>
> Hi Emily
>
>
>
> The more that I see the statement of "small minority", the more I cannot
> agree with the "small" being included there.
>
> If you are still asking, my vote goes to removing  "small" from the
> consensus definition so that it reads "a position where a minority
> disagrees, but a majority agree"
>
>
>
> Maureen
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:27 PM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> As a reminder, if you would like to submit minority viewpoints (details
> below), the deadline to do so is this *Thursday, 28 May at **23:59 UTC**.*
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Emily
>
>
>
> *From: *Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 7 May 2020 at 15:42
> *To: *Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Cc: *Ching Chiao <ching.chiao at gmail.com>, Emily Barabas <
> emily.barabas at icann.org>, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>, Joke
> Braeken <joke.braeken at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Fwd: Message for Erika to send to CCWG today [Subject:
> CCWG Auction Proceeds Consensus Call - Deadline 21 May 2020]
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Thank you to those who participated in the final poll on mechanisms.
> Please find attached the Final Report reflecting results of the poll (see
> poll results in excel format here
> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/126432332/CCWG%20Auction%20Proceeds%20-%20Final%20Survey%20on%20Mechanisms%20-%20Summary.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1588328283000&api=v2>).
> With 15 members and 4 participants responding, poll results indicate strong
> support for mechanism A, followed by mechanism B with the majority of
> members supporting that the CCWG should recommend two mechanisms. Section
> 4.7 of the Report and Recommendation #1 have been updated to reflect this
> result.
>
>
>
> Seeing that there were no additional comments on the last revision
> circulated, the leadership team now considers the Final Report complete.
> The next step in the process is for the Co-Chairs to make a designation of
> the level of consensus for the recommendations in the report (see charter
> <https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter> for details,
> an excerpt of which is included below). *We believe that the CCWG
> supports the recommendations in this report by Consensus. Consensus is
> defined as “a position where a small minority disagrees, but most agree.”
> If you are a member of the CCWG and you disagree with this designation,
> please respond to the email list no later than **21 May at 23:59 UTC (14
> days from today).*
>
>
>
> *Please note that at this stage, we are not revisiting the substance of
> the recommendations or asking you to state your positions on specific
> recommendations. We are requesting a response only if you believe that the
> consensus designation is incorrect. If you would like to submit a minority
> viewpoint on the content of the recommendations, **you may do so, but
> this is separate from the consensus call. Minority statements will be due
> 28 May at 23:59 UTC (**21 days from today). **Minority statements may be
> included in an annex **to the Final Report or linked from **the Final
> Report to the wiki, depending on the length and number of statements
> received**.*
>
>
>
> Please also find attached a draft cover letter to send to the Chartering
> Organizations with the Final Report. *If you have questions or comments
> on this draft letter, please send to the* *email list no later than **21
> May at 23:59 UTC (14 days from today).*
>
>
>
> We hope you are all well, take good care and,
>
> kind regards,
>
>
>
> Erika and Ching
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Excerpt from the CCWG Charter regarding Consensus Designation:*
>
>
>
> *In developing its output, work plan and any other reports, the CCWG shall
> seek to act by consensus. The chair(s) may make a call for Consensus. If
> making such a call they should always make reasonable efforts to involve
> all Chartering Organization appointed Members of the CCWG (or sub-teams, if
> applicable). The chair(s) shall be responsible for designating each
> position as having one of the following designations:*
>
>
>
> *a)* *       Full Consensus - a position where no minority disagrees;
> identified by an absence of objection*
>
> *b)* *       Consensus – a position where a small minority disagrees, but
> most agree*
>
>
>
> *In the absence of Full Consensus, the chair(s) should allow for the
> submission of minority viewpoint(s) by the Chartering Organization
> appointed members and these, along with the consensus view, shall be
> included in the report.*
>
>
>
>
>
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