[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER - Deadline Thursday, 28 May - minority statements

Tue May 26 17:56:59 UTC 2020

Hi Elliot -

good to hear from you!

I believe we have taken your concerns into consideration and have
implemented the core idea well -,respecting at the same time ICANN's
parameters.

Regarding evaluation and selection funding applications, recommendation 2
states:

"The CCWG recommends that an Independent Project Applications Evaluation
Panel will be established. The Panel’s responsibility is to evaluate and
select project applications. Neither the Board nor staff will be taking
decisions on individual applications but the Board will instead focus its
oversight on whether the rules of the process were followed by the
Independent Project Applications Evaluation Panel. Members of the
Independent Project Applications Evaluation Panel will not be selected
based on their affiliation or representation, but will be selected based on
their grant-making expertise, ability to demonstrate independence over
time, and relevant knowledge. Diversity considerations should also be taken
into account in the selection process."

Note that ICANN community members are not prohibited from serving on the
panel, as long as they meet the other requirements and criteria.

If you would like to submit a statement expressing a different viewpoint
from recommendation 2, you can do so as a minority statement. This will be
included in an annex to the Final Report or linked from the Final Report to
the wiki, depending on the length and number of statements received.

Cheers,

Erika

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 6:46 PM elliot noss <enoss at tucows.com> wrote:

> Replying here to not fork the thread.
>
> My oft-repeated preference for community expertise instead of org has a
> number of people who also liked it. Is it captured in any of the other
> comments (I have made sure it was on the record at all previous junctures).
> Do I need to do so again? And if yes, note that I will be referring to the
> support this position had every time it was raised.
>
> We are now at the point of significant CCWG volunteer fatigue and this
> race, again, goes to the marathoners.
>
> EN
>
> On May 25, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> wrote:
>
> HI Emily,
>
> Thanks so much for your clarification. It does help.  I guess like Maureen
> I am resigned to accepting the consensus definition as it is what is in the
> charter and we cannot go back to change things now.
>
> Thanks again to you, Erika, and Ching for all your great work on this
> document
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
> Hellerstein & Associates
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> On 5/25/2020 11:02 AM, Emily Barabas wrote:
>
> Hi Judith,
>
> Thanks for your response and this additional input. As Erika mentioned in
> her response to Maureen, the definition of consensus is included in the
> charter, so this is not a definition we can change.
>
> As a point of clarification, the consensus level designation refers
> specifically to the level of support for the text of the recommendations. The
> consensus level designation is not intended to directly reflect the results
> of the poll. Rather, the poll was a tool to inform drafting of the
> recommendation text. In the case of recommendation 1, “consensus” support
> means that the following is a position where a small minority disagrees,
> but most agree:
>
> “The CCWG recommends that the Board select either mechanism A or
> mechanism B for the allocation of auction proceeds, taking into account the
> preference expressed by CCWG members for mechanism A . . . ”
>
> Does the above clarification address your concerns, and if not, can you
> kindly advise if there is something else the CCWG can do to accommodate
> your concerns?
>
> Kind regards,
> Emily
>
>
> *From: *Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein
> <judith at jhellerstein.com> <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> *Organisation: *Hellerstein & Associates
> *Reply to: *"judith at jhellerstein.com" <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> <judith at jhellerstein.com> <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 25 May 2020 at 16:40
> *To: *"ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] REMINDER - Deadline Thursday, 28
> May - minority statements
>
>
> HI Emily,
>
> I agree with Maureen on this statement. I do not like the word Small in
> the definition. Is there another way to describe this as the definition in
> the charter of consensus is not what we have here? On all other
> recommendations we can use the word consensus but not on the mechanism
> chosen
>
> If looking at the poll results. We see that 7 people voted for A, 4 for B
> and 3 for C so it seem that there were an equal number of votes for 'NOT" A
> as there were votes "FOR" A thus we cannot say a small majority disagree.
> We can only say that there was a preference for Mechanism A but that there
> was an equal preference for not A.
>
> So we cannot say there is a consensus on the type of mechanism, we can say
> there is a preference?
>
> Thanks
>
> Best,
>
> Judith
>
> _________________________________________________________________________
>
> Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>
> Hellerstein & Associates
>
> 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>
> Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>
> Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>
>
> On 5/25/2020 5:35 AM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>
> Hi Emily
>
> The more that I see the statement of "small minority", the more I cannot
> agree with the "small" being included there.
> If you are still asking, my vote goes to removing  "small" from the
> consensus definition so that it reads "a position where a minority
> disagrees, but a majority agree"
>
> Maureen
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:27 PM Emily Barabas <emily.barabas at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> As a reminder, if you would like to submit minority viewpoints (details
> below), the deadline to do so is this *Thursday, 28 May at **23:59 UTC**.*
>
> Kind regards,
> Emily
>
> *From: *Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, 7 May 2020 at 15:42
> *To: *Ccwg-auctionproceeds <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
> *Cc: *Ching Chiao <ching.chiao at gmail.com>, Emily Barabas <
> emily.barabas at icann.org>, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org>, Joke
> Braeken <joke.braeken at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Fwd: Message for Erika to send to CCWG today [Subject:
> CCWG Auction Proceeds Consensus Call - Deadline 21 May 2020]
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Thank you to those who participated in the final poll on mechanisms.
> Please find attached the Final Report reflecting results of the poll (see
> poll results in excel format here
> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/126432332/CCWG%20Auction%20Proceeds%20-%20Final%20Survey%20on%20Mechanisms%20-%20Summary.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1588328283000&api=v2>).
> With 15 members and 4 participants responding, poll results indicate strong
> support for mechanism A, followed by mechanism B with the majority of
> members supporting that the CCWG should recommend two mechanisms. Section
> 4.7 of the Report and Recommendation #1 have been updated to reflect this
> result.
>
> Seeing that there were no additional comments on the last revision
> circulated, the leadership team now considers the Final Report complete.
> The next step in the process is for the Co-Chairs to make a designation of
> the level of consensus for the recommendations in the report (see charter
> <https://community.icann.org/display/CWGONGAP/CCWG+Charter> for details,
> an excerpt of which is included below).*We believe that the CCWG supports
> the recommendations in this report by Consensus. Consensus is defined as “a
> position where a small minority disagrees, but most agree.” If you are a
> member of the CCWG and you disagree with this designation, please respond
> to the email list no later than **21 May at 23:59 UTC (14 days from
> today).*
>
> *Please note that at this stage, we are not revisiting the substance of
> the recommendations or asking you to state your positions on specific
> recommendations. We are requesting a response only if you believe that the
> consensus designation is incorrect. If you would like to submit a minority
> viewpoint on the content of the recommendations, **you may do so, but
> this is separate from the consensus call. Minority statements will be due
> 28 May at 23:59 UTC (**21 days from today). **Minority statements may be
> included in an annex **to the Final Report or linked from **the Final
> Report to the wiki, depending on the length and number of statements
> received**.*
>
> Please also find attached a draft cover letter to send to the Chartering
> Organizations with the Final Report. *If you have questions or comments
> on this draft letter, please send to the* *email list no later than **21
> May at 23:59 UTC (14 days from today).*
>
> We hope you are all well, take good care and,
> kind regards,
>
> Erika and Ching
>
>
>
>
> *Excerpt from the CCWG Charter regarding Consensus Designation:*
>
> *In developing its output, work plan and any other reports, the CCWG shall
> seek to act by consensus. The chair(s) may make a call for Consensus. If
> making such a call they should always make reasonable efforts to involve
> all Chartering Organization appointed Members of the CCWG (or sub-teams, if
> applicable). The chair(s) shall be responsible for designating each
> position as having one of the following designations:*
>
>
> *a)* *       Full Consensus - a position where no minority disagrees;
> identified by an absence of objection*
>
> *b)* *       Consensus – a position where a small minority disagrees, but
> most agree*
>
> *In the absence of Full Consensus, the chair(s) should allow for the
> submission of minority viewpoint(s) by the Chartering Organization
> appointed members and these, along with the consensus view, shall be
> included in the report.*
>
>
>
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