[council] RE: ICANN GNSO - Group 3356 - PAX NAME: Klein ***Response is Required ASAP***Attn Annie

Stacy Hoffberg stacy.hoffberg at icann.org
Mon Jan 14 19:46:18 UTC 2008

Dear Norbert,


I have discussed the below with American Express and they are looking into
the quote you received from your agent of $695 ticket and why it did not
show up in their system.  


American Express will be sending an explanation of their findings as well
providing another flight option.


Thank you in advance for your patience.


Stacy Hoffberg

ICANN - Meeting Planner

4676 Admiralty Way, Ste. 330

Marina del Rey, CA 90292

Phone: 310.301.3875

Mobile: 310.818.9074

Skype: stacy.hoffberg

stacy.hoffberg at icann.org





From: Norbert Klein [mailto:nhklein at gmx.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:10 PM
To: Sabregrpair; STACY.HOFFBERG at icann.org
Cc: Denise Michel; Paul Twomey; GNSO.SECRETARIAT at GNSO.ICANN.ORG; GNSO
Subject: Re: ICANN GNSO - Group 3356 - PAX NAME: Klein ***Response is
Required ASAP***Attn Annie


I address this response mail to "Sabregrpair" <sabregrpair at aexp.com>

but I copy it also to several other persons, because it shows that the
present discussion about a fair sharing of travel and hotel expenses for
GNSO Council members needs obviously to be carried to a different level,
first of all also to 

Ms. Stacy Hoffberg, in charge of ICANN travel arrangements.

Dear Stacy,

I just found the following mail this morning in my inbox, requiring a
response within 72 hours:

= = =


fare is now USD 2577.70 no lower fares available 

Please review the tentative itinerary below for changes or approval to
ticket. You have 72 hours from the time of receipt of this email to respond,
otherwise your tentative flight reservation will automatically gets

. . .




= = =

I am utterly surprised. When I started to inquire about flights to the New
Delhi ICANN meetings and made a tentative reservation a long time ago, I
could have bought the ticket for US$535. Then, in the meantime, it went up
to US$590 - and I had mentioned this also in my earlier mails, always adding
that the airfare prices I quote are subject to possible change.

So this morning, after receiving the mail above, I contacted immediately my
normal agent again: the ticket is now $695, changeable and refundable - and
still available, if I would purchase it early in the week. And it is exactly
for the same airline and for the same flights for which the ICANN agent
would charge 3.7 times more than my agent here.

I remember some comments in the discussions of the Council that ICANN should
not too easily accept to pay for the expenses which the GNSO Council members
incur for travel and face-to-face meetings. Especially, there was hesitation
expressed about paying hotel costs for GNSO Council members. 

In the meantime we had the GNSO information about the prices for the
suggested hotels - the hotel rates for one night are in the general range of
the GNP per person for one year in Cambodia.

As I am working as a volunteer without salary since the last 18 months, I
would appreciate: 

1) to be authorized to buy my ticket here for US$695.00 (for later
re-imbursement), and

2) to receive the difference between the two prices quoted ($2,577.70 minus
$695.00), that is $1,882.70, towards covering hotel costs in New Delhi.

Naturally, I need an answer within less than 72 hours, as that is the
deadline that was given in the mail to me this morning. 

I am aware that this may raise some difficult questions, but I think the
price difference is so outrageous that I cannot but put this up for wider
discussion for a quick decision now, and towards future policy discussions.


Norbert Klein

Member of the GNSO Council


Ms. Denise Michel

Dr. Paul Twomey

GNSO Secretariat

GNSO Council 

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