[council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate

[William Drake]

HI

On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Avri Doria wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> In a truly secret ballot, which is what we are planning to set up  
> provisionally

Why?  It's not been apparent that there's a majority for closure.

> (awaiting the decision of the council on closing the vote)

When and how do we vote on this, I must have missed it.

Thanks,

Bill

> it would not be possible for Glen to identify the voters.
>
> a.
>
> On 17 Oct 2009, at 07:31, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>
>>
>> Glen could privately communicate the votes of each SG's Councilors to
>> the SG chair or in the case of constituencies to the Constituency
>> chairs.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 3:40 AM
>>> To: Tim Ruiz; GNSO Council
>>> Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed -
>>> Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate
>>>
>>>
>>> But how do you prove to your SG that is actually what you
>>> voted (and that you represented them appropriately?).
>>>
>>> Adrian Kinderis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
>>> Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2009 4:16 AM
>>> To: GNSO Council
>>> Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed -
>>> Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck raises an important point. Do the CSG Councilors intend
>>> that their
>>> votes be secret even within their SG? A secret ballot at the Council
>>> level is a different issue from keeping Councilors' votes secret  
>>> from
>>> their constituents.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2
>>> Each House determines a Candidate
>>> From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>
>>> Date: Fri, October 16, 2009 10:08 am
>>> To: "Mary Wong" <MWong at piercelaw.edu>
>>> Cc: "Council GNSO" <council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>
>>> Strictly from a personal point of view:
>>>
>>> + I favor an open ballot for accountability and transparency  
>>> reasons,
>>> but I also respect the concerns of individual Councilors.
>>>
>>> + If just one Councilor requests a secret ballot, I then am
>>> fine with a
>>> secret ballot with at least one caveat that the votes of each
>>> SG's reps
>>> be communicated to the SG.
>>>
>>> + If am fine with Avri's suggestion to poll the Council regarding
>>> whether to hold a secret or open ballot.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have raised this issue on the RySG list and am waiting their
>>> direction.  In the end I will respond to the poll in accordance with
>>> that direction and not my personal views.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Mary Wong
>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:18 AM
>>> Cc: Council GNSO
>>> Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed -
>>> Part 2 Each
>>> House determines a Candidate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>>> Do other council members believe this needs to be a secret ballot?
>>>
>>> I think that at a time when there seems to be a lot of
>>> mistrust amongst
>>> the ICANN community and. more importantly, when there are many new
>>> entrants/participants and Councillors, it's important to have  
>>> complete
>>> transparency in the GNSO processes. As such, I don't support
>>> the idea of
>>> a secret ballot in this case.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Mary W S Wong
>>> Professor of Law & Chair, IP Programs
>>> Franklin Pierce Law Center
>>> Two White Street
>>> Concord, NH 03301
>>> USA
>>> Email: mwong at piercelaw.edu
>>> Phone: 1-603-513-5143
>>> Webpage: http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php
>>> Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network
>>> (SSRN) at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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William J. Drake
Senior Associate
Centre for International Governance
Graduate Institute of International and
  Development Studies
Geneva, Switzerland
william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
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