[council] JAS update and deadline

Rafik Dammak rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Mon Aug 22 14:21:25 UTC 2011


thanks for all those replies,
trying to answer some questions:

1/ we have updated draft of report prior to to JAS calls in Tuesday and
Friday but this draft is getting changed a lot these days with the different
reviews made by WG members (and specific comments), the  checking   about
consensus level and the help of the additional staff support for drafting
and integrating the feedback and comments. The extra days of delay of
deadline are aimed to allow that such process to be ended without more undue
rush for the WG and ensuring a certain level of quality of the report.

anyway the draft are available in the JAS WG wiki homepage in pdf and word
I can send later the last version of draft report .

2/ to help SG/C (and the whole ICANN community) to get the fast track about
final report content and getting community feedback and answer its questions
regarding the report, a webinar is planned after suggestion during last GNSO
council confcall. the preparation and planning for  such action started
already (another workload for co-chairs, ICANN staff and WG members)  .



2011/8/20 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at indom.com>

> Rafik, can you let us know if an early submittal of a draft to the Council
> is possible?
> Adrian, Ching: what I am suggesting is a one-off emergency decision on
> whether to push back a planned Council teleconference. To be clear, this is
> something that we never normally do, for good reasons such as the
> predictability of our meeting calendars for us, observers and the whole
> community.
> Also, it's clear that pushing back the meeting to accommodate one group is
> to the detriment of the other important policy work that we currently have
> going on and the corresponding motions.
> However, we should in my opinion also be mindful of the incredible amount
> of work that the JAS WG has produced to try and meet the deadline set by the
> June 20 Board resolution.
> Personally I don't think pushing back by 15 days will significantly
> adversely impact the rest of the work we have on. Yes it's a nuisance, but
> if it helps finish the JAS work in time for inclusion by the first round of
> new gTLDs, I think that will serve the community well. And that is something
> we are obviously keen to do.
> Through its cochairs, the JAS WG has asked the GNSO Council to
> do what we can to help it reach it's goals. It is with this in mind that I
> suggest we consider pushing back, and that I suggest in this instance we
> keep our decision process simple and flexible. So I would shy away from a
> formal vote and this is why I am asking for any strong objection to be
> voiced.
> What I would then suggest is that if any opposition is voiced in any way,
> rather than launching into a lengthy debate, we simply decide to keep to our
> scheduled calendar and our Sept 8 meeting, no questions asked and no
> justification needed from those who oppose.
> However, if no opposition is voiced, we would then consider this tacit
> agreement that the meeting be pushed back.
> I hope this answers your questions and helps clarify my approach.
> Stéphane
> Envoyé de mon iPhone4
> Le 20 août 2011 à 04:46, Ching Chiao <chiao at registry.asia> a écrit :
> Thank you Rafik and Stéphane.
> Stéphane just to be clear: are we now facing a voting circumstances (moving
> meeting time or not)? Personally I am open --  but if we are moving the
> regular call to later date then I think we need a good reason -- given ICANN
> has already allocated extra staff resource to support JAS work. I very much
> agree with Adrian on reviewing the current draft so we can help get
> necessary input from our SGs.
> Ching
> 2011/8/20 Stéphane Van Gelder < <stephane.vangelder at indom.com>
> stephane.vangelder at indom.com>
>> Thanks Rafik,
>> Councilllors, if a small push back can help the JAS WG meet the
>> Board-requested deadlines, then in my view we should at the very least
>> consider it. But a decision needs to be taken quickly and it needs to be
>> very clearly stated that these are exceptional circumstances and that the
>> Council will not alter it's calendar everytime a WG needs a little extra
>> time.
>> In my conversations with the JAS cochairs and the ALAC chair on this, I
>> have been told that pushing back our Sept 8 meeting by 15 days would give
>> the JAS WG the time it needs to present it's final report to us.
>> I can, of course, also see reasons for not wanting to push our meeting
>> back. So if anyone is very opposed to doing so, please say so by Wednesday
>> next week so that we can take a timely decision.
>> Thanks,
>> Stéphane
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone4
>> Le 19 août 2011 à 03:38, Rafik Dammak < <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> rafik.dammak at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > Dear fellow-councillors,
>> >
>> > while the JAS WG members are working hard on drafting the final report
>> with all difficulties(commitment during summer holidays etc) , I am sending
>> this email to kindly ask for consideration to push back the gnso confcall
>> planned for 8th September (or considering special call) and also delaying
>> for few days the deadline for finalizing the report. a webinar for icann
>> community is also planned to make it more easy to get a  fast track on the
>> report updates (knowing that is also another workload for WG
>> members).helping the discussion among councillors and their respective SG/C
>> regarding the report.
>> >
>> > I will be glad to  get your feedback and answer your questions.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Rafik
> --
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> Chair, Asia Pacific Networking Group
> Member of ICANN GNSO Council & RySG
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