AW: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
Mon Nov 12 17:17:49 UTC 2012
Hi everybody
below are a number of recognized organisations which have the same acronym (IOC) as the International Olympic Committee
* Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Intergovernmental_Oceanographic_Commission>
* International Ornithological Committee <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/International_Ornithological_Committee>
* International Oil Company <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/w/index.php?title=International_Oil_Company&action=edit&redlink=1>
* Indian Oil Corporation <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Indian_Oil_Corporation>
* Icon of Coil <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Icon_of_Coil> , a Norwegian Musicgroup
* International Outreach Church (which has www.ioc.org)
IOC stands also for
* Inversion of Control <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Inversion_of_Control>
* International Organized Crime
* Integrated optical circuit
* Initial Operating Capability <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/wiki/Initial_Operating_Capability>
BTW, www.ioc.info or www.ioc.biz are available (via Network Solutions)
Here is what you will find under www.ioc.com
Registrant:
Inter Office Communications Inc
PO BOX 618
New Palestine, IN 46163
US
Domain Name: IOC.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Brant, Steven B <http://reversewhois.domaintools.com/?email=171e626d49e711bb51893ec429cf9ebf>
Inter Office Communications Inc
PO BOX 618
New Palestine, IN 46163
US
317.861 5198 fax: 317.861 5198
Record expires on 30-Dec-2015.
Record created on 28-Dec-1994.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.NETFRONTS.COM
NS2.NETFRONTS.COM
Difficult to say what will go and what not ;-((((
wolfgang
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Von: owner-council at gnso.icann.org im Auftrag von Volker Greimann
Gesendet: Fr 09.11.2012 17:35
An: Jen Wolfe
Cc: Neuman, Jeff; council at gnso.icann.org
Betreff: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Hi Jen,
the legal protections of the terms in question for the IOC and the RCRC are not all-encompassing, i.e. do not affect existing rights or use in totally unrelated areas. Many trademarks for the term Olympic exist that the IOC can do nothing about. Such other legitimate enterprises may normally be entitled to register, own and use the domain name olympic.nyc, as an example. The special legal protection affords it protection against illegitimate use or as you say the attempt to leverage the goodwill associated with the IOCs brands, but there is no right of the IOC that prevents legitimate uses of the term.
The negative effect results from the fact that the proposed policy would effectively exclude legitimate applicants from the registration of the desired name in the sunrise of a TLD.
Do not forget that these terms may also carry meaning beyond the protected use. Olympic for example can reference a specific regional origin, the mountain of the greek gods, etc.
I am not suggesting there should not be any protection, but the protection that is there should be reasonable and measured to prevent abuse but allow legitimate use.
Best regards,
Volker
Hi Jeff & Volker,
I apologize if I am asking an overly simplistic question as one of the new GNSO Council members, but isn't the purpose of this motion and PDP to ensure that internet users are not misdirected when looking for the one true Red Cross or IOC? If I am reading the motion correctly, the intention is to reserve only exact matches. How is Olympic paints impacted negatively by this reservation? They chose their brand knowing there is a one true IOC and, most likely, intended to leverage the goodwill associated with the Olympic name. It would seem it is in the interest of the greater internet community to protect the IOC and Red Cross versus brand owners in terms of reservations of rights. But again, I'm new to the council, so I apologize if I am missing any history here that has already addressed this issue.
With kindest regards,
Jennifer
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From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Volker Greimann
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:52 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: council at gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Hi Jeff,
even if the reservation is temporary this will result in that the potential applicants are effectively disenfranchised from the opportunity to participate in the Sunrise periods of any given TLD. I don't think that registry operators and registrars will be willing to entertain a second sunrise in each and every new TLD just for these strings, which would mean that rights holders would have to compete with other third parties once the reservation were lifted.
While the IOC and RCRC have internationally established protections in place, these protections are not all-encompassing and allow for other legitimate uses of these terms. Consequently, any protections for these strings we implement in addition to the existing protections should also take into consideration other legitimate rights.
I am not opposed to additional protections in general, however these should be fair and balanced. I agree that the worst case scenario you detail is a distinct problem, but there should be possible solutions for that issue, such as a specific warning for registering parties at the time of application for sunrise validation, or the right to participate in the sunrise despite the reservation (i.e. the sunrise application would not automatically fail as with standard reservations, but either remain pending until the PDP is done, or be processed as usual but lead to a right to register upon availability instead of instant registration).
I agree that we should avoid being cornered by our current decision if the PDP comes out differently, I am just looking for more flexibility to allow for alternative solutions that would achieve the same goal.
Best,
Volker Greimann
Volker,
Please note that the recommendations are for temporary reservations pending the outcome of the PDP. You may be correct in your ultimate conclusion and that may be the way the PDP comes out. But out of practicality, if the PDP comes out the other way (that the names should be protected), then the only way to realistically implement that would be if the names were reserved in the first place. It would be impossible to take back the names once they are registered by third parties. Therefore, the Drafting Team believes that the names should be reserved initially until the PDP is completed. Worst case scenario if we adopt this measure is that the PDP comes out that the names should not be protected and then we allow for the release of the names at that time. If we took your approach and the names should have been protected (assuming the PDP comes out that way), we are stuck.
I hope this helps explain the Drafting Team position without in any way downplaying your opposition to the ultimate reservation.
Thanks.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:49 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff; council at gnso.icann.org
Subject: Re: [council] MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Dear Jeff, dear fellow councillors,
not trying to ruffle any feathers here, especially at this late stage, but I have strong objections to the concept of implementing blanket mandatory restrictions to the legitimate rights of potential domain owners to apply for certain strings on the second level based solely on the lobbying power of the IOC and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. The proposed reserving of the listed terms effectively removes the ability of other potential rights holders in these strings to apply for their trademarks or other name rights in the sunrise phase of any newly launched gTLD, especially since the TMCH warning process would provide the protected entities and the applicant with ample warning of the potential conflict during the launch. Only once the minimum duration of the TMCH protection in newly launched TLDs expires does further protection become necessary.
A quick search shows numerous such potential applicants for the string "Olympic" alone: restaurants, an airline, a paint company, a travel agency, hotels, a college, a dairy company and many more, none of which infringe upon the legally protected rights of the above organizations by use of the string "olympic". The blanket restriction therefore seems as an overreach, especially since effective protection mechanisms are already implemented during the launch.
A more differentiated approach therefore seems appropriate, such as a requirement for new gTLD registries to add the affected strings to the reserved list only after the TMCH is no longer effective for the TLD, or allowing Sunrise applications despite the restriction.
While I understand and agree with the need to implement some form of protections for the above organizations, such protections should not infringe on third party rights to apply for the registration of domain names that match their legal rights in an undue manner.
Best,
Volker Greimann
All,
On behalf of the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team, I am pleased to present the following motion which was supported by the Drafting Team. For the record, I will note that the recommendations were not supported by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group and Thomas Rickert, but were supported by the Registries Stakeholder Group, the, Intellectual Property Constituency, Business Constituency and ISP Constituency, the representative from the ALAC, and those representatives from the International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red Crescent. The Registrars Stakeholder group did not participate on the Drafting Team.
Thanks.
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MOTION TO RECOMMEND PROTECTIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND OF NEW GTLDS FOR CERTAIN RED CROSS/RED CRESCENT (RCRC) AND INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE (IOC) NAMES
Made by: Jeff Neuman
Seconded by:
WHEREAS:
The Board Resolution 2011.06.20.01, authorized "the President and CEO to implement the new gTLD program which includes . . . incorporation of text concerning protection for specific requested Red Cross and IOC names for the top level only during the initial application round, until the GNSO and GAC develop policy advice based on the global public interest, . . ." (http://www.icann.org/en/groups/board/documents/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm)
The IOC/RC Drafting Team established [Date] by the GNSO Council has considered a number of different options with respect to protections of both the IOC and the RCRC terms in response to the GAC proposal to provide permanent protection for such terms including at the second level in new gTLDS;
The solution proposed by the IOC/RC Drafting Team, to initiate a PDP and to provide temporary reservation of the exact match IOC/RC names, was posted for public comment on 28 September 2012 and closed on 9 November 2012;
The GNSO has now [Date] initiated a policy development process (PDP) to evaluate possible protections for certain international organization names in all gTLDs, including, specifically, whether to recommend policies to protect IOC/RCRC names; and
Therefore, the IOC/RC Drafting Team recommends that the GNSO Council recommend to the Board that it adopt the second recommendation of the IOC/RC Drafting Team, providing for temporary reservation of the exact match IOC/RC names, prior to the delegation of the first round of new gTLDs.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED:
That the GNSO Council adopts the IOC/RC Drafting Team's recommendation to temporarily reserve the exact match of IOC and RCRC second level domain names listed in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant Guidebook and per the GAC recommendation of 14 September 2011pending the outcome of the recently launched policy development process involving International Governmental and Non-governmental Organizations.
That the GNSO Council thanks the members of the IOC/RC Drafting Team for their efforts in producing these recommendations, and hereby disbands the IOC/RC Drafting Team; and
That the Chair of the GNSO Council is authorized to forward these recommendations to the ICANN Board.
Jeffrey J. Neuman
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