[council] RE: Berard comments on agenda for the GNSO Council Meeting - 12 December 2013

Gomes, Chuck cgomes at verisign.com
Wed Dec 4 19:36:40 UTC 2013


I am not aware of any CWG framework created by the Board and Staff.  To what are you referring?

The only model I am aware of is the GNSO developed guidelines that the ccNSO provided feedback on.  Of course, we also have had several CWGs that have seemed to function quite well so we have those as examples.

In my opinion, I think we need to jointly develop a framework with the ccNSO and the ALAC (two groups that I think are essential) while inviting the ASO and other ACs to participate if they want to.  We have put this off for years and I think it may become increasingly important going forward.  I know we are all busy but I don’t think that this has to be that complicated or time consuming because considerable work has already been done.  The next step is to work with the ccNSO to develop a charter for a WG; I suggest that Jonathan reach out to Brian to get a drafting team formed with co-chairs from the GNSO & ccNSO.  Once a WG is opened, I think that GNSO/ccNSO co-chairs would again be a good way to go.


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Regarding the cross community working groups, if the Board or staff call for them quicker than we can create a framework, the framework of the ones created by the Board and Staff will stand as the model.  If that happens, we would be better to spend our time elsewhere.


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Subject: [council] RE: Berard comments on agenda for the GNSO Council Meeting - 12 December 2013
From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson at afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>>
Date: 12/4/13 9:32 am
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Thanks John,

I’ll respond quickly with a few thoughts in-line below whilst it’s still my working day at least.

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Subject: Berard comments on agenda for the GNSO Council Meeting - 12 December 2013

Jonathan, et. al.,

Allow me to be a bit forward here.

While this agenda may seem light on its face (do agenda have faces?  that's a puzzler), I think there are three bits knit together from the action & project lists that ought to be our primary focus:

First, under cover of the PDP improvements work, there are three essential elements, 1, technology and tools in support of working groups, 2. expanding the pool of participants in working groups and 3. ensuring earlier participation by the GAC.  I am still stung by the way the GAC Buenos Aires communique made no reference to the IGO/INGO working group.

Under this one.  We are definitely moving ahead with the GAC early engagement so that is in hand.  First meeting Friday 6th Dec.  More communication to follow.
Regarding 1 & 2, it’s all about realistic, practical initiatives we can take, I think?

Second, linked to this and highlighted by the instinct for top-down direction is the nature of cross-community working groups.  Mary Wong and I are on point to follow-up your letter of invitation, but I think we ought to "farm out" invitations to specific SO/ACs based on whoever on the Council has the tightest relationships.  We need to move on this or we might as well stand down and let nature take its course.

Please clarify here?  There’s lots going on an I am not sure what specifically should be happening here.

Third, the GNSO review.  We ought to set a more specific agenda for the work that Jennifer is leading.

Agreed.  It’s just that there are two components:

1.       The board led work.  Which we need to track and potentially influence.  I don’t expect any significant movement in 2013.

2.       Our own initiatives linked to 1 above.  We need to be sure (or surer) where they are going to as to make sure what we do is coherent with their approach.
So, I feel we are tracking 1 with a view towards 2 and that there is not a lot to do immediately, hence why it is not on the agenda for Dec.
That said, we could schedule a regular update.

The ATRT2 letter might seem a 4th important bit, but it is due the next day and we will likely have a go/no-go from our groups before we get on the call.

Agreed.  This seems urgent and (IMO) we need someone to lead, pick up the pen and synthesise in a short and sweet fashion where we are with this.
Ideally it should link to and have e.g. similar numbering to any ATRT2 recs so it can be easily tracked.

My two (or three cents).


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Subject: [council] Agenda for the GNSO Council Meeting - 12 December 2013
From: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson at afilias.info<mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>>
Date: 12/4/13 5:43 am
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Please see attached for a draft agenda for the GNSO Council meeting on 12 December 2013.

It has not yet been published and distributed in the usual way but will be shortly.



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