[council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
Mike O'Connor
mike at haven2.com
Wed Dec 11 23:06:35 UTC 2013
i would add a couple variables
R = rigor
L (since "C" is already taken) = level of consensus
give me permission to do a sketchy work-product with low levels of consensus and i can bring a working-group home in a jiffy. ;-)
mikey
On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:27 PM, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
> I like it. I think it helps make my points with regard to time-effectiveness. J
>
> Chuck
>
> From: John Berard [mailto:john at crediblecontext.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:43 PM
> To: Berry Cobb
> Cc: Gomes, Chuck; James M. Bladel; Maria Farrell; Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
>
> Who is this and what have you done with Berry?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:36 AM, "Berry Cobb" <mail at berrycobb.com> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I’m probably a bit tardy in offering this to the discussion, but it might at least help inform future deliberations on the topic of time duration on a PDP. I started drafting a simple formula a while ago and I suspect a few more variables could be added.
>
> Duration of a PDP is a function of participation X frequency X complexity X knowledge
> D=PxFxCxK
>
> Food for thought…….
>
> B
>
> Berry Cobb
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> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:00
> To: Gomes, Chuck; James M. Bladel; Maria Farrell
> Cc: Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: RE: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
>
> One more thing on this. I was comfortable with the changes in wording that James & I agreed to previously. What happened to that?
>
> Chuck
>
> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:47 PM
> To: James M. Bladel; Maria Farrell
> Cc: Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: RE: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
>
> James,
>
> I don’t think that time-effectiveness can be dealt with in isolation of the other criteria. In fact, time-effectiveness itself is not the root problem, it is the symptom. We could easily make PDPs shorter; would that solve the problem? We could reduce the time it takes to do a PDP? Would that be a measure of success? The original DNSO did that in policy work by having the GNSO Council act as a legislative body. It’s easy to do things faster in a top-down management model. I am willing to consider other wording but I have a serious problem with the wording that is in the latest version Maria distributed. I think it undermines the other points we make.
>
> Chuck
>
> From: James M. Bladel [mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:12 PM
> To: Gomes, Chuck; Maria Farrell
> Cc: Alan Greenberg; David Cake; Mike O'Connor; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
>
> Chuck:
>
> I’m not entirely on board with some of the sentiments expressed in your edits. Opponents of the PDP will often (and firstly) cite the -lack– of time efficiency as the primary flaw in the process. If we are to address those internal and external critics, it seems that this should be highlighted above the other concerns…
>
> Thanks—
>
> J.
>
> From: <Gomes>, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 at 12:02
> To: Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>
> Cc: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>, David Cake <dave at difference.com.au>, Mike O'Connor <mike at haven2.com>, "council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>
> Subject: RE: [council] Draft ATRT2 Comments
>
> Thanks Maria.
>
> Regarding ‘13.1 on GNSO and the wider ICANN community developing ways to make the GNSO PDP process more time-effective’:
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