[council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board

Wed Mar 27 05:20:00 UTC 2013

I support.  Thanks Jonathan.

On Mar 26, 2013, at 12:01 PM, joy wrote:

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> Hi Jonathan - I think that is a sensible approach and has more of a
> constructive dialogue flavour, which I think has been lacking.
> Thanks for your work
> Joy
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> On 27/03/2013 10:17 a.m., Jonathan Robinson wrote:
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>> All,
>> 
>> My suggested process is as follows:
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>> 1. Create an agreed list of topics (which may need to be pared
>> back) 2. Seek volunteers to introduce and open the topic in the
>> discussion in Beijing
>> 
>> In order to prepare, I met with Steve Crocker late last week and
>> talked with him about how we might best interact. I shared with him
>> my sense that our interactions have not always been productive and
>> that we have, at least at times in in some prior interactions,
>> talked past one another. As a consequence, we agreed to experiment
>> with a new approach as follows:
>> 
>> We (the GNSO Council) define topics we wish to discuss with the
>> board.  Say 3-5 topics.  The board will leave that to us. We pull
>> together a sub-group of Councillors who can introduce these topics 
>> effectively and, prior to meeting with the board, discuss them with
>> GNSO board members Bruce Tonkin and Bill Graham. The purpose of
>> working with Bill & Graham is to develop and frame the topics in a
>> way which will be most constructive in our interaction with the
>> board.
>> 
>> So far, we have some topics on the list as follows:
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>> 1. Multi-stakeholder model & processes and recent activities that
>> challenge the model. 2. The concept of Public Interest within the
>> ICANN model 3. ICANN engagement & outreach 4. New constituencies
>> 
>> I urge you to come forward and support these, suggest that they are
>> modified or removed and, potentially, offer to lead these.
>> 
>> I feel we are at a pivotal point in time for many reasons.  We have
>> an opportunity to take advantage of face-to-face interaction with
>> the Board and engage effectively.
>> 
>> I look forward to further input from you and then engaging Bill &
>> Bruce on this next week.  I hope I haven't left out previous
>> suggestions, please remind me if I have.
>> 
>> Thank-you,
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer 
>> Sent: 20 March 2013 14:58 To: Jonathan Robinson Cc: 'Neuman, Jeff';
>> council at gnso.icann.org Subject: Re: [council] Agenda for GNSO
>> Council Meetings in Beijing / Council-Board
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Jonathan and Jeff,
>> 
>> For our meeting with the Board, NCSG agrees that multistakholder
>> engagement should be top of the agenda (we noted the issue as
>> Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism versus ICANN unilateralism).
>> 
>> In addition, we'd suggest consideration of Definition of the
>> "public interest" at ICANN; ICANN engagement & outreach plans; and
>> possibly New constituencies.
>> 
>> Best, -Wendy
>> 
>> On 03/19/2013 03:10 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>>> Thanks Jeff.  I agree and think it may even be necessary to go
>>> back to first principles on the function and role of the GNSO
>>> Council within the GNSO and in the context of the overall
>>> multi-stakeholder model.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us] Sent: 19 March
>>> 2013 19:01 To: Jonathan Robinson; council at gnso.icann.org Subject:
>>> RE: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council Meetings in Beijing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With the Board, I think it is imperative that we talk about our
>>> views on the multi-stakeholder process and the recent measures we
>>> have seen that we believe erode away at that model.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business
>>> Affairs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>>> Robinson Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:48 PM To:
>>> council at gnso.icann.org Subject: [council] Agenda for GNSO Council
>>> Meetings in Beijing
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are on track with a team to work with peers in the ccNSO in
>>> order to develop the proposed topics for our meeting with the
>>> ccNSO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As far as our prospective meeting with the GAC Is concerned, that
>>> is still work in progress, so for now that leaves meeting with
>>> the ICANN Board and the CEO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Typically in the past, these meetings have consisted of our
>>> topics / their topics and my sense is that we have, at least at
>>> times, talked past one another.
>>> 
>>> However, it is clearly still very useful to have a view on key
>>> areas we like to see covered in our interaction with the CEO and
>>> the board and to do the preparatory work on these.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With the above in mind, I'd welcome input that proposes topics
>>> for either or both of these interactions.
>>> 
>>> Once we settle on the topics (I have contacted both the board and
>>> the CEO in order to collaborate on these) we'll likely need
>>> volunteers to develop the topics and potentially lead the
>>> discussions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Therefore, please can you propose one or more topics for either
>>> or both sessions (with CEO and Board) as soon as possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank-you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy at seltzer.org +1 617.863.0613 Policy
>> Counsel, World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Fellow, Berkman Center for
>> Internet & Society at Harvard University Visiting Fellow, Yale Law
>> School Information Society Project http://wendy.seltzer.org/
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>> 
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