[council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations

Klaus Stoll kdrstoll at gmail.com
Fri Feb 21 15:41:29 UTC 2014


Sounds good to me, Thanks Mikey

Klaus

On 2/21/2014 4:23 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> hi all,
>
> thanks for the comments.  here’s a new version.
>
>
> The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated 
> volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group load 
> and correctly identifies this as a major concern.  We note that simply 
> increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way engaged with 
> ICANN should not be viewed as the goal.  Ultimately what is needed is 
> a larger and more diverse group of active and effective volunteer 
> participants in PDP working groups. Although outreach is an important 
> part of the effort and crucial for bringing new volunteers to ICANN, 
> the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting a large 
> diverse group of people.  Rather, there needs to be a clear and 
> well-supported progression for community volunteers to gain the 
> skills, knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active 
> PDP participants and leaders.We support reversing the current trend of 
> too little focus on the recruiting, development and support of capable 
> volunteer policymakers while increasingly following the expedient path 
> of hiring expert panels, expanding staff and hand-picking “community 
> representatives” through opaque “selection committees.”
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de 
> <mailto:rickert at anwaelte.de>> wrote:
>
>
>> +1
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> Am 21.02.2014 um 15:48 schrieb "James M. Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com 
>> <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>:
>>
>>> I also support Mikey’s edits, but to Klaus’ point, I’m wondering if 
>>> we can insert something emphasizing that new participants be 
>>> “volunteers”?    We do not want to encourage the trend of hiring 
>>> outside experts, proliferating Staff, and hand-picked participants 
>>> chosen by an opaque “selection committee.”
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at gmail.com <mailto:kdrstoll at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Friday, February 21, 2014 at 8:02
>>> To: "Reed, Daniel A" <dan-reed at uiowa.edu 
>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>, Mike O'Connor <mike at haven2.com 
>>> <mailto:mike at haven2.com>>, GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org 
>>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review 
>>> Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>
>>> Fine with me as long as we don't start breading more "experts".
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>
>>> On 2/21/2014 2:46 PM, Reed, Daniel A wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think this is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> *From:*owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
>>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike O'Connor
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2014 7:04 AM
>>>> *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency 
>>>> Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> i agree Maria.  i had a go at adding another paragraph to our 
>>>> response to Rec #10.3 and have attached the revised draft.  but to 
>>>> save you time, here’s the language i inserted
>>>>
>>>> "The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated 
>>>> volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group 
>>>> load and correctly identifies this as a major concern.  We note 
>>>> that simply increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way 
>>>> engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the goal.  Ultimately 
>>>> what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of active and 
>>>> effective participants in PDP working groups.  Although outreach is 
>>>> an important part of the effort and crucial for bringing newcomers 
>>>> to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting 
>>>> a large diverse group of people. Rather, there needs to be a clear 
>>>> and well-supported progression for newcomers to gain the skills, 
>>>> knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP 
>>>> participants and leaders.”
>>>>
>>>> happy to consider revisions.
>>>>
>>>> mikey
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:56 AM, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>>     I'm happy to support this, and thank you for drafting it.
>>>>     There's one small typo, track changes version attached. It's in
>>>>     para 1, page 3.
>>>>
>>>>     I'd have liked if we tackled head-on the issue of the
>>>>     narrowness of some PDP WGs' participation, which the ATRT2
>>>>     report provided some pretty convincing numbers on. But as I
>>>>     haven't gone to the trouble of actually drafting anything on
>>>>     it, I can't complain.
>>>>
>>>>     All the best, Maria
>>>>
>>>>     On 21 February 2014 09:15, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>>>>     <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Hi,
>>>>
>>>>         As a member of the ATRT2, I do not believe it my job to
>>>>         comment on our report.
>>>>
>>>>         I think the GNSO response is fine as far as it goes and I
>>>>         am pleased that at least something is being submitted -
>>>>         though I must admit I am less than enthused about responses
>>>>         that essentially say "we are already doing that".
>>>>
>>>>         I might have wished for it to be more supportive of other
>>>>         aspects of the report, but the response is what it is.
>>>>
>>>>         avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 21-Feb-14 09:43, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             *_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 8 HOURS_*
>>>>
>>>>             *From:*Jonathan Robinson
>>>>             [mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com
>>>>             <mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>]
>>>>             *Sent:* 20 February 2014 09:38
>>>>             *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>             <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>             *Subject:* RE: Second Accountability and Transparency
>>>>             Review Team (ATRT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>
>>>>             All,
>>>>
>>>>             The deadline for submission of public comment on the
>>>>             ends approximately
>>>>             36 hours from now.
>>>>
>>>>             I am OK to submit a letter in substantially the same
>>>>             for as that
>>>>             distributed to you on 14 Feb (see below) and
>>>>             re-attached to this letter.
>>>>
>>>>             BUT
>>>>
>>>>             I need your support to do so.  Accordingly, even if you
>>>>             simply provide
>>>>             support without any comment on the content, that will
>>>>             be helpful.
>>>>
>>>>             *_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS_*
>>>>
>>>>             Thank-you.
>>>>
>>>>             Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>             *From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info
>>>>             <mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>]
>>>>             *Sent:* 14 February 2014 17:21
>>>>             *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>             <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>>             <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org
>>>>             <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>>>             *Subject:* Second Accountability and Transparency
>>>>             Review Team (ATRT 2)
>>>>             Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>             *Importance:* High
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             All,
>>>>
>>>>             If you are not already, please be aware of the following:
>>>>
>>>>             http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm
>>>>
>>>>             The opportunity to provide comments _ends one week from
>>>>             today 23h59 UTC
>>>>             on 21 Feb 2014_.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             The ATRT2 interacted with many in the community during
>>>>             the course of its
>>>>             work, including directly with the GNSO Council which
>>>>             was certainly
>>>>             appreciated.  We now have an opportunity to comment on
>>>>             the final report.
>>>>
>>>>             If we do intend to comment, my opinion is that we
>>>>             should at least submit
>>>>             an indication of intent, if not the primary comment, in
>>>>             the initial
>>>>             comment period and not wait for the reply period.
>>>>
>>>>             Given the tight time frame, I have taken the unusual
>>>>             step of drafting a
>>>>             council response for your consideration.  The ATRT2
>>>>             deals with some
>>>>             critical areas of GNSO work and function and so it
>>>>             seems to me that we
>>>>             should respond to the call for comments, specifically
>>>>             in so far as the
>>>>             report deals with GNSO Policy and directly related areas.
>>>>
>>>>             I am aware that some of you were on the ATRT2 and
>>>>             others actively worked
>>>>             on Council interaction with the ATRT2.  Therefore, you
>>>>             may well have
>>>>             strong views on the subject matter.
>>>>
>>>>             I look forward to your input and any suggestions.
>>>>
>>>>             Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>             Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>     <ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014).doc>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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