[council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
Klaus Stoll
kdrstoll at gmail.com
Fri Feb 21 15:41:29 UTC 2014
Sounds good to me, Thanks Mikey
Klaus
On 2/21/2014 4:23 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> hi all,
>
> thanks for the comments. here’s a new version.
>
>
> The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated
> volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group load
> and correctly identifies this as a major concern. We note that simply
> increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way engaged with
> ICANN should not be viewed as the goal. Ultimately what is needed is
> a larger and more diverse group of active and effective volunteer
> participants in PDP working groups. Although outreach is an important
> part of the effort and crucial for bringing new volunteers to ICANN,
> the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting a large
> diverse group of people. Rather, there needs to be a clear and
> well-supported progression for community volunteers to gain the
> skills, knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active
> PDP participants and leaders.We support reversing the current trend of
> too little focus on the recruiting, development and support of capable
> volunteer policymakers while increasingly following the expedient path
> of hiring expert panels, expanding staff and hand-picking “community
> representatives” through opaque “selection committees.”
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de
> <mailto:rickert at anwaelte.de>> wrote:
>
>
>> +1
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> Am 21.02.2014 um 15:48 schrieb "James M. Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com
>> <mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com>>:
>>
>>> I also support Mikey’s edits, but to Klaus’ point, I’m wondering if
>>> we can insert something emphasizing that new participants be
>>> “volunteers”? We do not want to encourage the trend of hiring
>>> outside experts, proliferating Staff, and hand-picked participants
>>> chosen by an opaque “selection committee.”
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Klaus Stoll <kdrstoll at gmail.com <mailto:kdrstoll at gmail.com>>
>>> Date: Friday, February 21, 2014 at 8:02
>>> To: "Reed, Daniel A" <dan-reed at uiowa.edu
>>> <mailto:dan-reed at uiowa.edu>>, Mike O'Connor <mike at haven2.com
>>> <mailto:mike at haven2.com>>, GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org
>>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review
>>> Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>
>>> Fine with me as long as we don't start breading more "experts".
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>
>>> On 2/21/2014 2:46 PM, Reed, Daniel A wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think this is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> *From:*owner-council at gnso.icann.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike O'Connor
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2014 7:04 AM
>>>> *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency
>>>> Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> i agree Maria. i had a go at adding another paragraph to our
>>>> response to Rec #10.3 and have attached the revised draft. but to
>>>> save you time, here’s the language i inserted
>>>>
>>>> "The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated
>>>> volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group
>>>> load and correctly identifies this as a major concern. We note
>>>> that simply increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way
>>>> engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the goal. Ultimately
>>>> what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of active and
>>>> effective participants in PDP working groups. Although outreach is
>>>> an important part of the effort and crucial for bringing newcomers
>>>> to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting
>>>> a large diverse group of people. Rather, there needs to be a clear
>>>> and well-supported progression for newcomers to gain the skills,
>>>> knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP
>>>> participants and leaders.”
>>>>
>>>> happy to consider revisions.
>>>>
>>>> mikey
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:56 AM, Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:maria.farrell at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> I'm happy to support this, and thank you for drafting it.
>>>> There's one small typo, track changes version attached. It's in
>>>> para 1, page 3.
>>>>
>>>> I'd have liked if we tackled head-on the issue of the
>>>> narrowness of some PDP WGs' participation, which the ATRT2
>>>> report provided some pretty convincing numbers on. But as I
>>>> haven't gone to the trouble of actually drafting anything on
>>>> it, I can't complain.
>>>>
>>>> All the best, Maria
>>>>
>>>> On 21 February 2014 09:15, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>>>> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As a member of the ATRT2, I do not believe it my job to
>>>> comment on our report.
>>>>
>>>> I think the GNSO response is fine as far as it goes and I
>>>> am pleased that at least something is being submitted -
>>>> though I must admit I am less than enthused about responses
>>>> that essentially say "we are already doing that".
>>>>
>>>> I might have wished for it to be more supportive of other
>>>> aspects of the report, but the response is what it is.
>>>>
>>>> avri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21-Feb-14 09:43, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 8 HOURS_*
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Jonathan Robinson
>>>> [mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com
>>>> <mailto:jonathan.robinson at ipracon.com>]
>>>> *Sent:* 20 February 2014 09:38
>>>> *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
>>>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Second Accountability and Transparency
>>>> Review Team (ATRT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2) Final Report & Recommendations
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> The deadline for submission of public comment on the
>>>> ends approximately
>>>> 36 hours from now.
>>>>
>>>> I am OK to submit a letter in substantially the same
>>>> for as that
>>>> distributed to you on 14 Feb (see below) and
>>>> re-attached to this letter.
>>>>
>>>> BUT
>>>>
>>>> I need your support to do so. Accordingly, even if you
>>>> simply provide
>>>> support without any comment on the content, that will
>>>> be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> *_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS_*
>>>>
>>>> Thank-you.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info
>>>> <mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>]
>>>> *Sent:* 14 February 2014 17:21
>>>> *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
>>>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>
>>>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org
>>>> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
>>>> *Subject:* Second Accountability and Transparency
>>>> Review Team (ATRT 2)
>>>> Final Report & Recommendations
>>>> *Importance:* High
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> If you are not already, please be aware of the following:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm
>>>>
>>>> The opportunity to provide comments _ends one week from
>>>> today 23h59 UTC
>>>> on 21 Feb 2014_.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ATRT2 interacted with many in the community during
>>>> the course of its
>>>> work, including directly with the GNSO Council which
>>>> was certainly
>>>> appreciated. We now have an opportunity to comment on
>>>> the final report.
>>>>
>>>> If we do intend to comment, my opinion is that we
>>>> should at least submit
>>>> an indication of intent, if not the primary comment, in
>>>> the initial
>>>> comment period and not wait for the reply period.
>>>>
>>>> Given the tight time frame, I have taken the unusual
>>>> step of drafting a
>>>> council response for your consideration. The ATRT2
>>>> deals with some
>>>> critical areas of GNSO work and function and so it
>>>> seems to me that we
>>>> should respond to the call for comments, specifically
>>>> in so far as the
>>>> report deals with GNSO Policy and directly related areas.
>>>>
>>>> I am aware that some of you were on the ATRT2 and
>>>> others actively worked
>>>> on Council interaction with the ATRT2. Therefore, you
>>>> may well have
>>>> strong views on the subject matter.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to your input and any suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> <ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014).doc>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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