P.S. (Re: [council] IGO INGO Final Issue Report & Motion for Council)

Thu Jun 5 13:11:51 UTC 2014

I should perhaps also have mentioned that the proposed Curative Rights
Protection PDP doesn’t assume the UDRP and/or URS **will** be amended.
Rather, the WG (if formed) is first directed to determine whether there
should be amendments; it is also specifically noted that an alternative
may be to develop a separate, narrowly tailored dispute resolution
procedure (modeled on the UDRP and URS) that would apply only to the
protected IGOs and INGOs. The WG is also requested to do additional
factual research and obtain relevant data at an early phase of its work.

The recommendation in the Final Issue Report reads in part:

"This Curative Rights Protection for IGOs and INGOs PDP Working Group (WG)
is tasked to provide the GNSO Council with policy recommendations
regarding whether to amend the UDRP and URS to allow access to and use of
these mechanisms by IGOs and INGOs and, if so in what respects or whether
a separate, narrowly-tailored dispute resolution procedure at the second
level modeled on the UDRP and URS that takes into account the particular
needs and specific circumstances of IGOs and INGOs should be developed. In
commencing its deliberations, the WG should at an early stage gather data
and research concerning the specific topics listed in Section X of the
Final Issue Report as meriting such further documentation.”

Again, I hope this helps!

Cheers
Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
Date: Thursday, June 5, 2014 at 9:02 AM
To: Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
Cc: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [council] IGO INGO Final Issue Report & Motion for Council

>Hello Avri and everyone,
>
>Thomas has asked me to assist with your questions, with reference to the
>specific questions you and the NCSG had in relation to the draft WG
>Charter. Essentially, as the proposed PDP follows on and from the
>consensus recommendation of the original IGO-INGO PDP WG, the scope of the
>proposed IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection WG will be limited to
>considering only those IGO and INGO identifiers that were specifically
>noted for protection by the IGO-INGO PDP WG. For our current purposes,
>therefore, this boils down largely to IGO acronyms and INGOs on the ECOSOC
>Special Consultative List - these had been designated as ³Scope 2
>identifiers² by the PDP WG and recommended as such for bulk entry into the
>TMCH and access to the TM Claims Service as second level protections.
>
>Note that the PDP WG expressly did NOT recommend Sunrise protection for
>these Scope 2 identifiers - thus, TMCH entry and TM Claims would simply
>work to notify a protected IGO/INGO if a third party has registered an
>Exact Match of the IGO acronym or ECOSOC-listed INGO. This is basically
>the difference between ³preventative² (i.e. blocking) protection and
>³curative² protections. In the situation where a TM Claims notice has been
>received by a protected IGO or INGO, it will therefore need to use
>available curative protections if it can - e.g. UDRP, URS or traditional
>litigation. This was where the PDP WG reached consensus that an Issue
>Report on amending the UDRP/URS to enable access and use by IGOs and INGOs
>should be requested.
>
>(Side note on preventative protection - at the second level the PDP WG
>only recommended these for IGO Full Names (so-called Scope 1 identifiers)
>via Spec 5 of the New gTLD Registry Agreement and for INGOs on the ECOSOC
>General Consultative List. These recommendations were adopted by the ICANN
>Board on 30 April.)
>
>FYI we tightened the language in the Final Issue Report (versus the
>Preliminary Issue Report) to make this point clearer. The draft WG Charter
>was included in the Preliminary Issue Report and (with a few minor
>changes) also included in the Final Issue Report - this has been a recent
>practice adopted following the Council¹s work on PDP Improvements. For
>your convenience I have extracted the latter version and attach it to this
>email for your reference.
>
>I hope the above helps clarify the NCSG¹s questions.
>
>Thanks and cheers
>Mary
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thomas Rickert <rickert at anwaelte.de>
>Date: Thursday, June 5, 2014 at 7:52 AM
>To: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
>Cc: GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
>Subject: Re: [council] IGO INGO Final Issue Report & Motion for Council
>
>>Hi Avri,
>>thanks for your question. I will now speak at the GNSO WG Newcomer
>>Session and get back to you after that.
>>
>>Best,
>>Thomas
>>
>>
>>Am 05.06.2014 um 12:55 schrieb Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>:
>>
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does the Charter exist as a separate document, or is it only to be
>>>found
>>> as an annex to the final issues report?
>>> 
>>> Also has there been any in depth discussion in the council of the
>>> charter yet.  I don't recall it.
>>> 
>>> As you recall NCSG has varied concerns, often expressed, about the
>>>scope
>>> of addition of special protections beyond those that have been already
>>> been granted.  This concern translates into concern over the mandate in
>>> the charter to deal with anything that had been discussed during the
>>> IGO/INGO WG.  A lot was discussed. I am also not clear on the scope of
>>> identifiers that can be considered.  Obviously it goes beyond those
>>> already defined as excluded for second level, but I do not understand
>>> the permissible scope for this PDP, and I have spent a far bit of time
>>> bouncing around between the Final Report and the Final Issues report
>>> trying to figure that out.  For example I wasn't able to answer the
>>> simple question: Are acronyms in scope for considerations?  I am sure I
>>> am missed it, but I missed it.
>>> 
>>> So as we approach the vote I have to admit that I do not understand the
>>> scope, and this came full face the other day when I tried to explain it
>>> to an NCSG open policy meeting.  I thus also do not have a good view of
>>> the NSCG viewpoints on this except to understand that they run the
>>> entire gambit.  I  need to understand the scope better and may not be
>>> ready to vote at this point.
>>> 
>>> I should note that while I am personally inclined to support opening
>>>the
>>> UDRP and URS beyond business marks to support intergovernmental and
>>> civil society needs, some of the NCSG is much less inclined to do so.
>>> This makes it critical to understand the full scope.
>>> 
>>> Apologies if it is crystal clear to everyone else and I am just missing
>>> it.  Thomas, I expect it is all crystal clear to you, so I would
>>> appreciate some help in understanding the scope.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> On 05-Jun-14 11:35, Thomas Rickert wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>> Jonathan has kindly proposed the two motions we will discuss later
>>>> today. I herewith second the motions.
>>>> 
>>>> As you will recall, I have chaired the IGO/INGO PDP WG and would very
>>>> much like to encourage Councillors to submit questions there might be
>>>> relating to the motions to the Council list. This will enable me and
>>>> staff to have all information you might be asking ready prior or in
>>>>the
>>>> call. 
>>>> 
>>>> Please note that the motions are a follow-up to the recommendation we
>>>> unanimously approved previously and in which we recommended this very
>>>> PDP should be conducted.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 27.05.2014 um 00:54 schrieb Jonathan Robinson
>>>><jrobinson at afilias.info
>>>> <mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>>:
>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please see attached for two proposed motions for the next council
>>>>>meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ordinarily, I expect that these would have come to you from Thomas
>>>>> Rickert as chair of the PDP WG that developed the recommendation for
>>>>> the Issue Report.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, since Thomas is currently on vacation, I have decided to
>>>>> propose the motions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Motion to Initiate Curative Rights PDP - 23 May 2014.docx><Motion
>>>>>for
>>>>> IGO INGO Curative Rights Charter Adoption - 25 May 2014.doc>
>>>> 
>>
>

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