[council] - Preliminary Issue Report - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures
Volker Greimann
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Tue Aug 25 17:30:40 UTC 2015
If there is a good reason to delay it, such as staff still needing to
finalize it, I would not oppose it, however at this time the publication
time seems arbitrary, so I favor expediency over delay.
If we would be off by a few days for the November meeting, a shorter
extention of the comment period might solve that, but only if
publication happens sooner rather than later.
All things considered, an earlier publication date would be preferential
as it leaves us with more options on the tail end.
Best,
Volker
Am 25.08.2015 um 19:23 schrieb Phil Corwin:
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> So the option that Steve originally presented of publishing on 9/3
> rather than 8/31 is not in order?
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> *To:* Phil Corwin; Austin, Donna; jrobinson at afilias.info; 'Steve
> Chan'; council at gnso.icann.org; bret at uniregistry.link
> *Subject:* Re: [council] - Preliminary Issue Report - New gTLD
> Subsequent Procedures
>
> Having looked at the PDP manual
> (http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-2-pdp-manual-16dec11-en.pdf),
> Section 6, I can confirm the below is accurate. There is no
> deliberation step required or even forseen for the publication of an
> issues report.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 25.08.2015 um 19:01 schrieb Volker Greimann:
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> Unless I am mistaken, the publication of an issues report that has
> already been requested by the Council by ICANN staff is not
> subject to a deliberation or decision by the Council. While we may
> deliberate, this would not impact the issues report, therefore it
> is of no consequence. Only after public comments have been
> submitted and reviewed the Council has a role to play again in
> deciding whether to initiate a PDP. If the report is ready, it
> should be published for public comment.
>
> We can therefore use the allotted time to discuss the published
> issues report during our meeting but I see no reason whatsoever
> for delaying the report for our benefit as our deliberations will
> not impact this in any way forseen by the bylaws.
>
> What we can then debate at our meeting is whether an extention of
> the standard 40 day public comment period is warranted or even
> required and I am open for debate on that.
>
> With respect to your question, a month is not in itself
> problematic, but a month here and a month there quickly adds up to
> another year or two. So I am very much in favor of streamlining
> the formal process in favor of having a good PDP effort that may
> as well take more time than currently expected.
>
> TL;DR: The report should be published; our discussion item will
> not be affected either way due to our defined role in the PDP
> process not being affected by publication.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 25.08.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Phil Corwin:
>
> Respectfully disagreeing, it is the position of the BC that
> the comment period should be initiated immediately following
> the Council call of September 3^rd , and that the comment
> period should be for 60 days.
>
> Publication on August 31st will render null and void this
> item on the proposed Council agenda for September 3:
>
> *_Item 4: COUNCIL DISCUSSION & DECISION – Public Comment
> Period for New gTLDs Subsequent Procedures Preliminary Issue
> Report (15 minutes)_*
>
> At its July 2015 meeting, the GNSO Council approved the staff
> request
> <http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg17350.html>
> for an extension of the deadline for publication of the
> Preliminary Issue Report on New gTLDs Subsequent Procedures.
> The extension was viewed as necessary given the number of
> potential topics that had been identified by the New gTLDs
> Subsequent Procedures Discussion Group and the need to develop
> a proposed framework for handling those topics in a possible
> PDP. The Council had also discussed briefly the possible
> benefits of having an extended public comment period in view
> of the community interest in this matter. Here the Council
> will discuss the ramifications of extending the public comment
> period and decide whether or not to recommend moving forward
> with the idea.
>
> 4.1 – Update and presentation of possible timelines (Steve Chan)
>
> 4.2 – Council discussion
>
> 4.3 – Council decision and next steps
>
> Publishing for only 40 days will close out the comment period
> prior to the Dublin ICANN meeting, at which the community can
> be more fully informed about the Preliminary Issue Report.
>
> Really, with the second round at least several years off, what
> is the rush when all we are talking about is a one month delay
> of Council consideration of the Final Report, when that
> approval can still be accomplished this calendar year?
>
> Thank you for your consideration.
>
> Best to all, Philip
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:25 PM
> *To:* Volker Greimann; jrobinson at afilias.info
> <mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>; 'Steve Chan';
> council at gnso.icann.org <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>;
> bret at uniregistry.link <mailto:bret at uniregistry.link>
> *Subject:* RE: [council] - Preliminary Issue Report - New gTLD
> Subsequent Procedures
>
> I support Volker’s position.
>
> I would also add, that given the considerable amount of work
> that was undertaken by the Discussion Group which largely
> scoped and informed the Issues Report, I do not see any reason
> to extend the comment period by an extra 20 days.
>
> It would appear from Steve’s email that if we delay the
> posting of the Issue Report by 3 days to 3 September, it
> removes the possibility of the Council considering the Final
> Report on 19 November.
>
> Thanks
>
> Donna
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> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker
> Greimann
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 25 August 2015 1:48 AM
> *To:* jrobinson at afilias.info <mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info>;
> 'Steve Chan' <steve.chan at icann.org
> <mailto:steve.chan at icann.org>>; council at gnso.icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [council] - Preliminary Issue Report - New gTLD
> Subsequent Procedures
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> thank you indeed for the update.
>
> I see no reason to delay the publication, especially since the
> delay by a few days will cause us to lose a full month at least.
> Given that we can expect delays down the road as this will be
> a piece of substantial work, I would favor publication sooner
> rather than later, with a standard 40 day comment period.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 24.08.2015 um 21:38 schrieb Jonathan Robinson:
>
> Steve and GNSO Councillors,
>
> It seems to me that we need to think about a three points
> here:
>
> 1.Do we publish 31^st August i.e. ahead of the forthcoming
> council meeting and such that we can deal with this at the
> 19 November meeting as per option 1 below OR
>
> 2.Do we publish 3^rd September and, if so, does that
> necessarily mean we miss dealing with it on 19 November?
>
> 3.Regardless of 31 August or 3^rd September, do we think
> that a public comment period of more than the now standard
> 40 day period is necessary?
>
> Note: My personal opinion is that it would be OK to
> publish with a 40 day comment period and then extend if
> that was felt to be important / necessary and that this
> will not be confusing.
>
> Thoughts / input will be helpful, especially if we are to
> publish the report by 31 August.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>
> *From:*Steve Chan [mailto:steve.chan at icann.org]
> *Sent:* 18 August 2015 23:26
> *To:* council at gnso.icann.org
> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>; bret at uniregistry.link
> <mailto:bret at uniregistry.link>
> *Subject:* Re: [council] - Preliminary Issue Report - New
> gTLD Subsequent Procedures
>
> Bret,
>
> Thanks, great question and hopefully the information below
> is beneficial to the Council’s consideration of the 3 day
> hold, as well as the discussion around the extended public
> comment period. Regarding next steps and timing, here is
> the relevant language from the PDP Manual:
>
> /The Staff Manager is responsible for drafting a
> summary and analysis of the public comments received
> on the Issue Report and producing a Final Issue Report
> based upon the comments received. The Staff Manager
> should forward the Final Issue Report, along with any
> summary and analysis of the public comments received,
> to the Chair of the GNSO Council for consideration for
> initiation of a PDP./
>
> */The summary and analysis and the Final Issue Report
> are expected to be delivered to the Chair of the GNSO
> Council within 30 days of the closing of the public
> comment forum, though the Staff Manager may request an
> extension of that 30-day time for delivery./*
>
> Without knowledge of the level of public comment that will
> be received, it is difficult to estimate how long the
> summary and analysis and Final Issue Report will take to
> prepare. However, assuming 30 days, here are the three
> timelines expanded to include the next GNSO Council
> meeting, as long as the document and motion deadline is
> met. I would note, these are are the first, and not only,
> opportunities for the Council to consider the initiation
> of a PDP:
>
> * Publish 31 August -> 40 Day Public Comment -> Close 10
> October -> *9 November PC Analysis & Final Report -> 9
> November Documents & Motions Deadline -> 19 November
> GNSO Council Meeting*
> * Publish 3 September -> 40 Day Public Comment -> Close
> 13 October -> *12 November PC Analysis & Final Report
> -> 7 December Documents & Motions Deadline -> 17
> December GNSO Council Meeting*
> * Publish 3 September -> 60 Day (for instance) Public
> Comment -> Close 2 November ->*2 December PC Analysis
> & Final Report -> 7 December* *Documents & Motions
> Deadline -> 17 December GNSO Council Meeting*
>
> These are all estimates of course, and in the case of the
> first bullet, dependent on everything executing according
> to plan to be able to precisely hit the documents &
> motions deadline. Substantial public comment and
> substantive changes to the Final Report could ultimately
> derail these timelines.
>
> Apologies for the lengthy response, but I hope this
> answers your questions.
>
> Best,
>
> Steve
>
> *From: *Bret Fausett <bret at uniregistry.link
> <mailto:bret at uniregistry.link>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 2:22 PM
> *To: *Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org
> <mailto:steve.chan at icann.org>>, "council at gnso.icann.org
> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>" <council at gnso.icann.org
> <mailto:council at gnso.icann.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [council] - Preliminary Issue Report - New
> gTLD Subsequent Procedures
>
> Thanks Steve. Great news on the progress.
>
> On the timelines, can you remind me what happens after the
> close of the comment deadline? How do we get from the
> close of the public comment period to Day 1 of the PDP
> working group? How many Council meetings/votes between
> close of comment period and starting the hard policy work?
>
> Bret
>
> On Aug 18, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Steve Chan
> <steve.chan at icann.org <mailto:steve.chan at icann.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Councilors,
>
> Staff is on track to be able to deliver the
> Preliminary Issue Report on New gTLD Subsequent
> Procedures for public comment by the end of August, as
> discussed on the previous GNSO Council meeting.
> However, I wanted to note that during the meeting, the
> possibility of providing for an extended public
> comment period was also discussed, which would keep it
> open through the ICANN54 meeting. This topic is
> expected to be on the agenda for the next Council
> meeting, scheduled for 03 September and as such, it
> may make sense to delay the publication of the report
> by approximately 3 days to allow for discussion during
> the meeting and a decision to be made, to avoid
> confusion from possibly amending the comment close
> date. The impact appears to be minimal:
>
> * Publish 31 August -> 40 Day Public Comment ->
> Close 10 October (note that this is a Saturday)
> * Publish 3 September -> 40 Day Public Comment ->
> *Close 13 October*
> * Publish 3 September -> 60 Day (for instance)
> Public Comment -> Close 2 November
>
> Staff is leaning towards waiting the three days and
> _immediately_ putting in the request to publish the
> Preliminary Issue Report after a decision is made, but
> wanted to be sure there were no strong objections to
> this approach.
>
> Best,
>
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> Volker A. Greimann
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> - Rechtsabteilung -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
>
> Im Oberen Werk 1
>
> 66386 St. Ingbert
>
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>
> Email:vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>
>
> Web:www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net> /www.RRPproxy.net <http://www.RRPproxy.net>
>
> www.domaindiscount24.com <http://www.domaindiscount24.com> /www.BrandShelter.com <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
>
> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
>
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
>
> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
>
> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
>
> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
>
> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
>
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
>
> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
>
> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Volker A. Greimann
>
> - legal department -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
>
> Im Oberen Werk 1
>
> 66386 St. Ingbert
>
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
>
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
>
> Email:vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>
>
> Web:www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net> /www.RRPproxy.net <http://www.RRPproxy.net>
>
> www.domaindiscount24.com <http://www.domaindiscount24.com> /www.BrandShelter.com <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
>
> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
>
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
>
> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
>
> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
>
> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
>
> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
>
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
>
> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
>
> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
>
>
>
> --
> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> Volker A. Greimann
> - Rechtsabteilung -
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email:vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>
> Web:www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net> /www.RRPproxy.net <http://www.RRPproxy.net>
> www.domaindiscount24.com <http://www.domaindiscount24.com> /www.BrandShelter.com <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
> --------------------------------------------
> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
> Best regards,
> Volker A. Greimann
> - legal department -
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email:vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>
> Web:www.key-systems.net <http://www.key-systems.net> /www.RRPproxy.net <http://www.RRPproxy.net>
> www.domaindiscount24.com <http://www.domaindiscount24.com> /www.BrandShelter.com <http://www.BrandShelter.com>
> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems <http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems>
> www.twitter.com/key_systems <http://www.twitter.com/key_systems>
> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu <http://www.keydrive.lu>
> This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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--
Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
www.facebook.com/KeySystems
www.twitter.com/key_systems
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
www.keydrive.lu
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
--------------------------------------------
Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
www.facebook.com/KeySystems
www.twitter.com/key_systems
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
www.keydrive.lu
This e-mail and its attachments is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. Furthermore it is not permitted to publish any content of this email. You must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, kindly notify the author by replying to this e-mail or contacting us by telephone.
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