[council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. crg at isoc-cr.org
Tue Nov 29 19:57:39 UTC 2016


Dear Donna,

I´m aware of the background and the great design work based on past 
experience.

But I just have to say that the new meeting meeting ‘strategy’  was 
largely designed to pelase everybody and before we could measure the 
impact of the new empowered community CCWGs, overlapping AoC reviews, 
and 1000+ new gTLDs and GDD exclusive gatherings, which require an 
increasing number of small meetings along the year at great cost and 
expense.

Having said that, I must confess that Helsinki was a great surprise in 
“policy-efficiency” and reduced non-sense I would like to emulate as 
far as possible. Looking forward, we should take the best of the new 
meetings format (and forget such ones as Hyderabad). Nobody said we can 
keep improving.

Lets hope for an ICANN58 where we can work effectively.

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 29 Nov 2016, at 12:32, Austin, Donna wrote:

> Hi Carlos
>
> While your suggestion makes perfect sense the reality is that the 
> smaller meeting B, ie Policy Meetings, were designed to enable ICANN 
> to host meetings in locations predominately in the African and LAC 
> regions that can no longer host the larger ICANN meetings.
>
> Prior to the establishment of the Meeting Strategy Working Group 
> (MSWG), Nick Tomasso published a proposal suggesting that hub 
> locations be used, although Nick called them Consolidated Meeting 
> Locations, and adjusted the rotation through regions. Nick's proposal 
> was rejected and the MSWG was established.
>
> Nick's proposal is available at: 
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/meetings-proposal-02oct12-en.pdf
>
> The MSWG also discussed the idea of hubs as well but agreed to 
> continue regional rotation.
>
> Donna
>
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> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Raúl 
> Gutiérrez G.
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> Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
>
>
> Thank you James.
> But here we are working on the 2nd derivative: ICANN hubs for Policy
> (short) Meetings.
> Don´t know if this was also discarded.
>
> Cheers
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> +506 8837 7176
> Skype: carlos.raulg
> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
> On 28 Nov 2016, at 20:34, James M. Bladel wrote:
>
>> Just a note that the Meeting Strategy Working Group examined the idea
>> of “rotating hubs”, and rejected them.  Mostly by folks from 
>> smaller
>> and/or more distant locations who were concerned that ICANN would be
>> permanently absent from their region.
>>
>> I don’t agree, but that was their finding.
>>
>> Thanks –
>>
>> J.
>>
>> On 11/28/16, 11:59 , "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
>> <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Carlos
>>
>>     Ah ok, so the ICANN hubs.
>>     That makes a lot of sense from a cost and logistics perspective.
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>     Michele
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>>     On 28/11/2016, 11:33, "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."
>> <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
>>
>>         ICANN hubs: LA, Istambul and Singapore.
>>
>>         I assume that those places are central located in terms of
>> airlines
>>         logistics, already have a minimum of ICANN staff available,
>> facilites,
>>         etc. and would greatly reduce the cost to set up meetings (A
>> recent
>>         meeting of the CCT-RT in Washington DC had to fly in as many
>> ICANN staff
>>         members as RT members, which calls for more reasonable places
>> to meet,
>>         particularly for mainle “working” meetings like the 
>> Policy
>> Format
>>         calls for).
>>
>>         Cheers
>>
>>         Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>>         +506 8837 7176
>>         Skype: carlos.raulg
>>         Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
>>         On 26 Nov 2016, at 10:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>>
>>         > Carlos
>>         >
>>         > Which locations would you see as being “hubs”?
>>         >
>>         > Regards
>>         >
>>         > Michele
>>         >
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