[council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. crg at isoc-cr.org
Tue Nov 29 20:00:44 UTC 2016


Dear James,

Helsinki set a new standard in CCWG-PDP efficiency and we should aim for 
something like that all meetings (for the benefit of the GNSO in 
particular)

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 29 Nov 2016, at 13:18, James M. Bladel wrote:

> Absolutely.
>
> Altho I’d love to see some data that correlates attendance at an 
> ICANN meeting with an uptick in new volunteer participation.  We’ve 
> often heard the CEO or Chair announce (in London, and most recently 
> Hyderabad) that the current ICANN meeting is the “largest in its 
> history.”  But I haven’t yet seen where overall attendance 
> translates in to a deeper pool of volunteers for policy work.
>  	
> Thanks –
>
> J.
>
> On 11/29/16, 12:43 , "owner-council at gnso.icann.org on behalf of Amr 
> Elsadr" <owner-council at gnso.icann.org on behalf of 
> aelsadr at egyptig.org> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi,
>
>     And if holding meeting B in Africa and LAC encourages stakeholders 
> from those regions to engage with the GNSO’s PDP, then all the 
> better.
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Amr
>
>     > On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Austin, Donna 
> <Donna.Austin at neustar.biz> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Hi Carlos
>     >
>     > While your suggestion makes perfect sense the reality is that 
> the smaller meeting B, ie Policy Meetings, were designed to enable 
> ICANN to host meetings in locations predominately in the African and 
> LAC regions that can no longer host the larger ICANN meetings.
>     >
>     > Prior to the establishment of the Meeting Strategy Working Group 
> (MSWG), Nick Tomasso published a proposal suggesting that hub 
> locations be used, although Nick called them Consolidated Meeting 
> Locations, and adjusted the rotation through regions. Nick's proposal 
> was rejected and the MSWG was established.
>     >
>     > Nick's proposal is available at: 
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/meetings-proposal-02oct12-en.pdf
>     >
>     > The MSWG also discussed the idea of hubs as well but agreed to 
> continue regional rotation.
>     >
>     > Donna
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: owner-council at gnso.icann.org 
> [mailto:owner-council at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Raúl 
> Gutiérrez G.
>     > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:16 PM
>     > To: James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
>     > Cc: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com>; Edward 
> Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>; GNSO Council List 
> <council at gnso.icann.org>
>     > Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
>     >
>     >
>     > Thank you James.
>     > But here we are working on the 2nd derivative: ICANN hubs for 
> Policy
>     > (short) Meetings.
>     > Don´t know if this was also discarded.
>     >
>     > Cheers
>     >
>     > Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>     > +506 8837 7176
>     > Skype: carlos.raulg
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>     > On 28 Nov 2016, at 20:34, James M. Bladel wrote:
>     >
>     >> Just a note that the Meeting Strategy Working Group examined 
> the idea
>     >> of “rotating hubs”, and rejected them.  Mostly by folks 
> from smaller
>     >> and/or more distant locations who were concerned that ICANN 
> would be
>     >> permanently absent from their region.
>     >>
>     >> I don’t agree, but that was their finding.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks –
>     >>
>     >> J.
>     >>
>     >> On 11/28/16, 11:59 , "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
>     >> <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>    Carlos
>     >>
>     >>    Ah ok, so the ICANN hubs.
>     >>    That makes a lot of sense from a cost and logistics 
> perspective.
>     >>
>     >>    Regards
>     >>
>     >>    Michele
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>     >>    On 28/11/2016, 11:33, "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."
>     >> <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>        ICANN hubs: LA, Istambul and Singapore.
>     >>
>     >>        I assume that those places are central located in terms 
> of
>     >> airlines
>     >>        logistics, already have a minimum of ICANN staff 
> available,
>     >> facilites,
>     >>        etc. and would greatly reduce the cost to set up 
> meetings (A
>     >> recent
>     >>        meeting of the CCT-RT in Washington DC had to fly in as 
> many
>     >> ICANN staff
>     >>        members as RT members, which calls for more reasonable 
> places
>     >> to meet,
>     >>        particularly for mainle “working” meetings like the 
> Policy
>     >> Format
>     >>        calls for).
>     >>
>     >>        Cheers
>     >>
>     >>        Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>     >>        +506 8837 7176
>     >>        Skype: carlos.raulg
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>     >>        On 26 Nov 2016, at 10:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight 
> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Carlos
>     >>>
>     >>> Which locations would you see as being “hubs”?
>     >>>
>     >>> Regards
>     >>>
>     >>> Michele
>     >>>
>     >>>
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