[council] Community travel support consultation - draft of proposed response

[Johan Helsingius]

I can live with this approach.

	Julf

On 18-11-17 18:01, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> All
> 
> As one of those who drafted the comments with Tatiana I am happy to
> stand over them, however I fully accept what Donna is saying.
> 
> So maybe the path forward is to do the following:
> 
> 1 – a submission from the GNSO Council taking into consideration Donna’s
> suggestions, without getting into the quagmire of some of the programs.
> This would keep within the scope of the GNSO Council’s views on this
> hopefully.
> 
> 2 – Those of us who feel strongly that comments should be submitted
> regarding certain aspects of the travel support program do so separately
> ie. not as a submission by Council, but as community members who wish to
> express their opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> Of course there is also the option of submissions via our respective
> stakeholder groups etc., though I’m not sure if that will really work
> for everyone.
> 
>  
> 
> Just a suggestion.
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> Regards
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> Michele
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> *From: *council <council-bounces at gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Tatiana
> Tropina <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Saturday 18 November 2017 at 13:04
> *To: *Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>
> *Cc: *GNSO Council List <council at gnso.icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [council] Community travel support consultation - draft
> of proposed response
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>  
> 
> Hi Carlos and all,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks a lot for your comments. 
> 
>  
> 
> if we follow your logic it means that only those who are responsible for
> the fellowship and NextGen programs are able to comment on its
> effectiveness, although fellowship is supposed to be beneficial for the
> entire community and should be assessed by the community. 
> 
>  
> 
> I asked on the GNSO call when the questionnaire was presented why it
> missed questions about the fellowship and NextGen (as these programs
> have a large share in the ICANN travel budget) and whether this would be
> added at the later stage. I was told that we can add our comments on
> this at the end of the questionnaire as general remarks. 
> 
>  
> 
> I believe there are a lot of concerns about these programs. I see that
> we have no consensus as to whether we can comment on this, but I do
> think it's worth to raise these concerns and that we as a GNSO council
> are in a position to do so. This is what "general remarks" section is
> for, in my opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> So I am apparently with the drafting team and with Erika and Julf here
> that instead of deleting the paragraph about these programs, we might
> even add more there, e.g. highlight that they are not ICANN focused enough. 
> 
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> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Tanya 
> 
>  
> 
> On 18 November 2017 at 13:32, Carlos Raul Gutierrez
> <crg at isoc-cr.org<mailto:crg at isoc-cr.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Good morning!
> 
>      
> 
>     I have read the questionnaire again. I think that the questionnaire
>     is asking questions about our own SO (only). 
> 
>      
> 
>     While I think the comment is interesting, I do agree with Donna that
>     is falls outside of the Questionnaires realm.
> 
>      
> 
>     So in good ICANN Style, If somebody wants to write a high level
>     "rationale" about ICANN travel support policy, it make sense to add
>     it in the email remitting the GNSO answers to the questionnaire. 
> 
>      
> 
>     But in my view, it does not answer any of the questions.
> 
>      
> 
>     My two cents
> 
> 
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>     On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Johan Helsingius
>     <julf at julf.com<mailto:julf at julf.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Erika,
> 
>         > How about mentioning that there's concern that the Fellowship Program is
>         > not sufficiently focusing on ICANN issues? I made a recommendation
>         > below. If you don't like it, change it or don't include it. Both is fine
>         > with me. 
> 
>         I think it is a good addition.
> 
>                 Julf
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