[council] Fwd: Fwd: GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion paper

Heather Forrest haforrestesq at gmail.com
Mon Aug 6 08:11:25 UTC 2018


Dear Council colleagues,

Please find below IGO/INGO Curative Rights PDP chair Petter Rindforth's
input into the PDP3.0 FInal Report.

Many thanks to Petter for taking the time to provide these detailed points.

Best wishes,

Heather
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Petter Rindforth <petter.rindforth at fenixlegal.eu>
Date: Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [council] GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion paper
To: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>
Cc: "Corwin, Philip" <pcorwin at verisign.com>


Dear Heather,

Below please see my comments and suggestions:

*4.1 Working Group Dynamics – Incremental Improvements*

*#1. Terms of participation for WG members*
Good suggestion. Should however also include an initial draft timeline and
clear topics with basic timelines for each decisions, in order for
potential WG members to make the right decision if they can keep the active
work and timelines.

*#2. Consider alternatives to open WG model*
Can work, depending on the topic. Especially if the topic is rather focused
on solving a problem that is identified by specific groups of interest
rather than for Internet users in general.

*#3. Limitations to joining of new members after a certain time*
I agree with the suggested text. However, it should include observers that
after a while decide to become active/full members.
 This is to avoid already discussed and decided topics to be re-opened and
thereby also unnecessary extension of the WG time.

*4.2 WG Leadership – Incremental Improvements*

*#4. Capture vs. Consensus Playbook*
If possible, the recommendation should also involve inactive full members,
that have not participated at WG meetings or online, and for some reason
suddenly decides to activate. It should be clear in the policy that
re-opening a topic that the WG has formally closed or decided upon, needs
some kind of majority decision in the WG, and/or recommendations from the
GNSO Council.

*#5. Active role for and clear description of Council liaison to PDP WGs*
Agree with the recommendation. If possible, the Council liaison should
participate in the preparatory WG Chair meetings, as well as at the WG
meetings as such. One role of the Council liaison should be to remind all
about the schedule and timelines.

*#6. Document expectations for WG leaders that outlines role &
responsibilities as well as minimum skills / expertise required*
Depends on the topic of the WG. My suggestion is to create some simple
general description and then one more specific for each new WG.

*4.3 Complexity of Subject Matter – Incremental Improvements*

*#7. Creation of Cooperative Teams*
The risk with this suggestion is that some WG members may find it more
easier to be less active and rely upon the support of and reports from
Cooperative Teams. Better to use traditional subgroups for different kind
of topics.

*#8. PDP Plenary or Model PDP*
PDP plenary is in fact generally recommendable for PDPs that have worked
for some time, in order to summarize the work and result. However, as to
newcomers, there should be a specific due date when they have to decided
whether or not to active members – again, in order to avoid extension of
the WG timeline.

*4.4 Consensus Building – Incremental Improvements*

*#9. Provide further guidance for sections 3.6 (Standard Methodology for
decision making)*
“Ensure there is clarity around how consensus is established and what tools
can be used in that regard”.   This is indeed needed! And, it should be
clear that informal discussions by e-mail among WG members can never be
recorded as consensus votes.
 As to 3.7 cases: It should be clear that this can not be used by a WG
member to stop the process and work of the WG. A 3.7 appeal process has to
go on side by side with the WG normal meetings.

*#10. Document positions at the outset*
This recommendation should also include WG members, and give the WG chairs
a possibility to refer to clear guidelines that there is a specific time
limit on each call for each WG member to speak (such as max 5 min’s) if
they are not formally asked to make a presentation on the topic.

*4.5 Role of Council as Manager of the PDP – Incremental Improvements*

*#11. Enforce deadlines and ensure bite size pieces*
Agree!

*#12. Notification to Council of changes in work plan*
Good suggestion.

*#13. Review of Chair(s)*
Well, it is in fact even more difficult to replace a WG member.

If #13 is introduced, there should be a #13.b:
“The Council could run an anonymous survey amongst the PDP WG to obtain
feedback on the WG members on a regular basis to facilitate their roles as
positively active members of the PDP. Similarly, there is no process in
place that allows a WG to challenge and/or replace their co-members.”

*#14. Make better use of existing flexibility in PDP to allow for data
gathering, chartering and termination when it is clear that no consensus
can be achieved.*
No objections to this.

*#15. Independent conflict resolution*
I agree with the suggestion to have “Council liaison to be proactive in
identifying potential issues / challenges that may need mitigation and
Council attention”.

*#16. Criteria for PDP WG Updates*
Good suggestion.

*#17. Resource reporting for PDP WGs*
Must be done in co-operation with ICANN staff.

*Further general suggestions:*

- Have each agenda clear with a time at the end of each call to wrap up –
Decisions, Action Items, Requests

- Look at time schedule on each meeting and keep it visible and online

- Clarify when it is ok to vote on how to proceed vs. adopting group
consensus

- If a topic is divided into separate issues – avoid members going back to
earlier decisions and reopen

-  Empower Chairs and GNSO liaison to remove bad actors – those who malign,
make things personal, attack WG members in social media, etc

All the best,
Petter

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Petter Rindforth, LL M





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Thank you


26 juli 2018 08:17:33 +02:00, skrev Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com
>:

Dear Phil, Petter,

I write on behalf of Council leadership to encourage you to contribute your
thoughts to the PDP 3.0 project. Your experiences as co-chairs of the
IGO/INGO Curative Rights PDP, and particular with the 3.7 appeal mechanism,
are invaluable as we seek to improve upon the PDP WG Guidelines and seize
upon existing flexibilities available to PDP leadership and working groups.

In particular, if you spot anything missing in the recommendations in the
attached PDP 3.0 report, or find recommendations that could be amended to
better align with your experiences, it would be very helpful to hear from
you, so that these things can be taken into account as the report is
finalised.

We welcome any comments from you, whether together or individually, and in
any format that is easiest for you. Comments received by 15 August will be
incorporated in the final version for consideration by the Council in its
September meeting.

With best wishes,

Heather Forrest


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Marika Konings* <marika.konings at icann.org>
Date: Sat, May 12, 2018 at 7:23 AM
Subject: [council] GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion paper
To: "council at gnso.icann.org" <council at gnso.icann.org>



*Sending on behalf of the Council leadership*



Dear colleagues,



Please find attached for your review the GNSO PDP 3.0 discussion paper. The
Council leadership team has collaborated with staff in bringing all
discussions and suggestions to date into one document for your and your
respective communities’ consideration. We welcome input, particularly on
section 4 – potential incremental improvements for consideration. In
particular, which potential incremental improvements should be prioritized,
are there any missing, are there additional implementation steps that
should be considered? After receiving feedback, we hope to commence the
development of an implementation plan proposing the when/how/who of
implementing those incremental improvements agreed upon by the Council. To
contribute to this next step in the improvements process we kindly request
your feedback and/or that of your community by 8 June so that the Council
can consider next steps during its meeting at ICANN62.



Best regards,



GNSO Council leadership team



*Marika Konings*

*Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) *

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