[council] [EXTERNAL] Re: Board process for GAC Advice
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Fri Mar 9 22:59:58 UTC 2018
Hi,
as those documents being advertised and likely many from the community may
refer to them for convenience instead to check lengthy documents, it would
make sense to make suggestions from the council.
Best,
Rafik
2018-03-10 2:32 GMT+09:00 Austin, Donna via council <council at gnso.icann.org>
:
> Thanks Marika
>
> So I guess the question now for council is whether we want to suggest any
> changes to the process as written.
>
> Donna
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings at icann.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 1:04 PM
> To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin at team.neustar>; Johan Helsingius <
> julf at julf.com>; council at gnso.icann.org
> Subject: Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: Board process for GAC Advice
>
> Donna, all,
>
>
>
> Please note that the handbook that has been referenced is part of the
> Process Mapping work, described at https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_processdocumentation&d=DwIGaQ&
> c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=
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> RjWjnBD9n7gMh7pWBXgH8LcNJOwOEwK0JTvMNfxk&e=. It is not an adopted
> process, but an attempt to describe in plain English the process set out in
> the diagram, available at https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_
> files_gac-2Dadvice-2Dprocess-2Dflowchart-2D31aug17-2Den.pdf&d=DwIGaQ&c=
> MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=
> e2BAhsTWRvkb8S5gyeqwWJebowJIPuy8fEaLTuUDusQ&s=vRXEk_FoWWMKlPe-
> ZNmKqrv1upidhz7W7oRHUBUG-_s&e=. If there are items missing from these
> diagrams, such as the potential for impasse if GAC advice is in conflict
> with a policy recommendation, or to demonstrate an opportunity for
> consideration of additional inputs such as the GNSO’s recent work on
> producing responses to GAC advice, the diagram and handbook can be updated.
> They are considered living documents, and though staff has tried hard to
> get them as right as possible and integrate community input, they don’t
> capture every nuance.
>
>
>
> I hope this is helpful.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Marika
>
>
>
> On 3/9/18, 12:46, "council on behalf of Austin, Donna via council" <
> council-bounces at gnso.icann.org on behalf of council at gnso.icann.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Julf, all
>
>
>
> It's unclear to me who owns or who drafted this document. Is it the
> Board, the GAC, ICANN?
>
>
>
> Is it possible for you to follow up with your GAC counterpart to see
> if you can get more clarity around the intent of the document and where it
> came from. I suspect it is the result of a number of consultations whether
> they be internal to just the GAC or perhaps the result of the Board/GAC
> Working Group.
>
>
>
> Before we all go jumping at shadows it would be good to have the
> context and understand where this came from, its purpose and intended
> audience.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: council [mailto:council-bounces at gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of
> Johan Helsingius
>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:03 PM
>
> To: council at gnso.icann.org
>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] Board process for GAC Advice
>
>
>
> Likewise!
>
>
>
> Julf
>
>
>
> On 08-03-18 23:58, Erika Mann wrote:
>
> > Heather - I agree with Rubens and Carlos. Cheers, Erika
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> >
>
> > On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg at isoc-cr.org
>
> > <mailto:crg at isoc-cr.org>> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> I think we should consider both Heather!
>
> >>
>
> >> I think Rubens first suggestion on a GNSO comment, in view of the
> new
>
> >> early engagement of the GAC in the GNSO process, is valid on its own
>
> >> for GNSO derived policies. Even if its only for future cases, the
>
> >> Board should consider in its evaluation phase if a GNSO policy issue
>
> >> has already been discussed between GAC and the GNSO in previous
> stages.
>
> >>
>
> >> Then, of course, your suggestion to ask other SO/ACs should be
>
> >> pursued ASAP.
>
> >>
>
> >> Safe travels to all
>
> >>
>
> >> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>
> >> ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>
> >> skype carlos.raulg
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> >> +506 8837 7176
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> >> ________
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> >> Apartado 1571-1000
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> >> COSTA RICA
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> >>
>
> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Heather Forrest
>
> >> <haforrestesq at gmail.com <mailto:haforrestesq at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> >>
>
> >> Thank you, Rubens. I wasn't aware of this- anyone else?
>
> >>
>
> >> If you all agree, I think this would be a worthwhile thing to
>
> >> raise when I meet with the other SOAC chairs tomorrow.
>
> >>
>
> >> Best wishes,
>
> >> Heather
>
> >>
>
> >> On 08/03/2018 4:47 PM, "Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk at nic.br
>
> >> <mailto:rubensk at nic.br>> wrote:
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> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> It seems that Board decided to detail how they plan to
> handle
>
> >> GAC advice:
>
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.
> icann.org_en_system_files_files_gac-2Dadvice-2Dprocess-
> 2Dhandbook-2D06mar18-2Den.pdf&d=DwIGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_
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> >>
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> >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
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> >> n_system_files_files_gac-2Dadvice-2Dprocess-2Dhandbook-
> 2D06mar18-2Den
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> >>
>
> >> As another registry mentioned, "Curious how there is nothing
>
> >> in the new process about consulting the rest of the
> community
>
> >> if the GAC Advice overlaps with, is inconsistent with, or
>
> >> otherwise also falls into the jurisdiction of, other SOs or
> ACs."
>
> >> That lacks, for instance, the usual comments from GNSO
>
> >> regarding advice overlapping with GNSO Policy, either
> existent
>
> >> or in the pipeline.
>
> >>
>
> >> Do we want to make a GNSO Council comment ? Or perhaps
>
> >> including other SOs and ACs ?
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> Rubens
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