[CPWG] [GTLD-WG] [registration-issues-wg] ALAC Statement regarding EPDP
Roberto Gaetano
roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 2 14:46:15 UTC 2018
I have to agree with Michele here - if there is a due process, it must be for a good reason.
To allow skipping due process for ease of access is, to me, like jumping a queue because it’s faster.
But this is a discussion that we are having since before ICANN, and positions have not moved much.
R
> On 02.08.2018, at 16:37, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com> wrote:
>
> Jonathan / Alan
>
> Thanks for the clarifications.
>
> 3 - I don't know how you can know what the interests of a user are. The assumption you seem to be making is that due process and privacy should take a backseat to access to data
> 4 - Same as 3. Plenty of ccTLDs never offered PII in their public whois and there weren't any issues with security or stability.
>
> Skipping due process for "ease of access" is a very slippery and dangerous slope.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
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> On 02/08/2018, 15:03, "Jonathan Zuck" <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michele!
> 3. Where there appears to be a conflict of interest between a registrant and non-registrant end user, we'll be endeavoring to represent the interests of the non-registrant end user.
> 4. Related to 3. This is simply an affirmation of the interests of end users in a stable and secure internet and it is those interests we'll be representing. We've included law enforcement because efficiencies regarding their access may come up. Just because there's always a way for them to get to data doesn't mean it's the best way.
>
> Make sense?
> Jonathan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> On Behalf Of Michele Neylon - Blacknight
> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 12:34 PM
> To: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>; CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] ALAC Statement regarding EPDP
>
> Alan
>
> 1 - good
> 2 - good
> 3 - I don't understand what that means
> 4 - Why are you combining law enforcement and private parties? Law enforcement can always get access to data when they follow due process.
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
>
>
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> Mr Michele Neylon
> Blacknight Solutions
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> Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
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> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
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> On 01/08/2018, 17:27, "registration-issues-wg on behalf of Alan Greenberg" <registration-issues-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
> Yesterday, the EPDP Members were asked to present a 1-3 minute
> summary of their groups position in regard to the EPDP. The following
> is the statement agreed to by me, Hadia, Holly and Seun.
>
> 1. The ALAC believes that the EPDP MUST succeed and will be working
> toward that end.
>
> 2. We have a support structure that we are organizing to ensure
> that what we present here is understood by our community and has
> their input and support.
>
> 3. The ALAC believes that individual registrants are users and we
> have regularly worked on their behalf (as in the PDP that we
> initiated to protect registrant rights when their domains expire), if
> registrant needs differ from those of the 4 billion Internet users
> who are not registrants, those latter needs take precedence. We
> believe that GDPR and this EPDP are such a situation.
>
> 4. Although some Internet users consult WHOIS and will not be able
> to do so in some cases going forward, our main concern is access for
> those third parties who work to ensure that the Internet is a safe
> and secure place for users and that means that law enforcement,
> cybersecurity researchers, those combatting fraud in domain names,
> and others who help protect users from phishing, malware, spam,
> fraud, DDoS attacks and such can work with minimal reduction in
> access to WHOIS data. All within the constraints of GDPR of course.
>
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