[CPWG] Fwd: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Thu Apr 30 22:43:03 UTC 2020


Thank you Eduardo. IMHO This page needs to be updated and publicised.
Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 30/04/2020 21:03, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
> Siva:
>
> All ChAC-SC advice and BOT responses are public and available here for
> all to
> see: https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/list-of-recommendations/. 
>
> As far as I know, anyone can point to them in any correspondence.
>
> -ed 
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 1:37 PM sivasubramanian muthusamy
> <6.internet at gmail.com <mailto:6.internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 14:54 Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>     <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear Colleagues,
>
>         you might be interested to read the advice below that was sent
>         by the ISOC Chapter Advisory Council Chair to the ISOC Board
>         of Trustees. Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: Second Advice on PIR
>         Sales to Ethos Capital
>         <https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q>is
>         particularly pertinent in the context of the ICANN decision to
>         be made in regards to the sale of the Public Interest
>         Registry, PIR. As ISOC does not appear to have the same
>         transparency
>
>         when it comes to the correspondence it receives as ICANN does,
>         the Statement does not appear on any ISOC sanctioned Web site.
>
>         Should the ICANN Board be made aware of this advice from
>         Chapters in a formal way or should Chapters inform the ICANN
>         Board directly themselves?
>
>
>     On transparency and on the difference between ICANN and ISOC in
>     the style of working, we could say that ISOC has its own conventions. 
>
>     In this matter pertaining to Chapter AC advice, CHAC could ask the
>     BoT if the Chapter advice is cross referenced in any of the BoT
>     correspondence with ICANN, and if not, if it would please the BoT
>     to direct Staff to forward the Chapter advice to ICANN for
>     information, without comment.
>
>     The Chapter advice is otherwise more of an internal process, as an
>     advice to BoT. ChAC, even if constituted as a Constituency may not
>     step out independently to engage directly with organizations
>     outside, and it may not exactly be in order to directly write to
>     organizations outside, except to ask, persuade and sometimes even
>     force the BoT to take note of it's positions, record, publish and
>     even publicize.
>
>     I am not sure if the legal point of view would be the same.
>
>     Sivasubramanian M
>
>
>
>         I am mindful of not mixing Chapters & ALSes. Kindest regards,
>         Olivier
>
>
>         -------- Forwarded Message --------
>         Subject: 	[Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice
>         Date: 	Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:26:48 -0400
>         From: 	Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates
>         <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>         <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>         Reply-To: 	Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
>         To: 	Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo at ericsson.com>
>         <mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo at ericsson.com>, Kevin Craemer
>         <Craemer at isoc.org> <mailto:Craemer at isoc.org>
>         CC: 	Chapters AC Elist <ChaptersAC-SC at elists.isoc.org>
>         <mailto:ChaptersAC-SC at elists.isoc.org>, Chapter Delegates
>         <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>         <mailto:Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>,
>         INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at connectedcommunity.org
>         <mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at connectedcommunity.org>,
>         INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaders at connectedcommunity.org
>         <mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaders at connectedcommunity.org>
>
>
>
>         Distinguished Members of the Board:
>
>          
>
>         The Chapter Advisory Council Steering Committee (ChAC-SC) is
>         submitting the following advice for your consideration:
>
>
>          1. Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: Second Advice on PIR Sales to
>             Ethos Capital
>             <https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q>               * *Advice*: /“We reiterate that the sale of PIR to Ethos
>                 Capital should not proceed until, unless proscribed by
>                 law, the following conditions are met, and the ISOC
>                 Board has taken into account the comments received
>                 after the information requested below is made public”/
>               * Text link: (
>                 <http://goog_419103278>https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q)
>               * Approved by 68% of the 73 chapters that participated
>          2. Advice 2020.04.17-02 :: Second Advice on
>             <https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim> ISOC
>             Constituencies Consultation
>             <https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim>               * *Advice*: /“Initiate a process to change the ISOC
>                 Bylaws so that the current communities that elect
>                 Trustees (that is, the Organizational Members, the
>                 Chapters, and the IETF) are considered as
>                 constituencies and so that they must be consulted
>                 prior to any major financial and strategically
>                 significant operational decisions being taken ”/
>
>               * Text link:
>                 (https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim)
>               * Approved by 89% of the 73 chapters that participated
>          3. Advice 2020-04-17-03 ::Second Advice on Bylaws Changes
>             <https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8>
>               * *Advice*: /“We reiterate that the Board charters a
>                 small group comprised of members of the Board and
>                 members of the Advisory Committees (ACs) to consider
>                 possible changes to ISOC’s Bylaws that would
>                 strengthen the roles of the ACs in general and the
>                 Chapters in particular.”/
>
>               * Text link:
>                 (https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8)
>               * Approved by 90% of the 73 chapters that participated
>
>         A total of 73 chapters (68% of 107 with assigned delegates or
>         58% of 126 active) participated in the vote call during the
>         period 21 April 2020 to 28 April 2020, inclusive. The vote was
>         quorate by 384% (73/19). 
>
>         A detailed list of the chapters that voted can be found in the
>         following link:
>         https://isoc.box.com/s/ct67lgxxf8e4mermrrijw0yz0cg5ngj1 and vote
>         results in the following
>         one: https://isoc.box.com/s/e4o3osfys4xmn1a8exva7nxvyvij4i5z.
>         The actual vote was anonymous.
>
>
>         Please note that all advices are based on information
>         available as of 10 April 2020.
>
>
>         Thank you for the opportunity to work with you to make ISOC a
>         better organization.
>
>          
>
>          
>
>         Eduardo Díaz
>
>         Chair
>
>         ChAC-SC
>         cc: Full ChAC, ChAC-SC, Chapter Delegates, Chapter Leaders
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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