[CPWG] Fwd: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice

Thu Apr 30 19:34:13 UTC 2020

Thank you Eduardo. Olivier has probably not seen this link, my comment was
on his message. Thanks for posting the link for us.

Sivasubramanian M

On Fri, May 1, 2020, 00:33 Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com> wrote:

> Siva:
>
> All ChAC-SC advice and BOT responses are public and available here for all
> to see:
> https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/list-of-recommendations/
> .
>
> As far as I know, anyone can point to them in any correspondence.
>
> -ed
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 1:37 PM sivasubramanian muthusamy <
> 6.internet at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 14:54 Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>> you might be interested to read the advice below that was sent by the
>>> ISOC Chapter Advisory Council Chair to the ISOC Board of Trustees. Advice
>>> 2020.04.17-01 :: Second Advice on PIR Sales to Ethos Capital
>>> <https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q> is
>>> particularly pertinent in the context of the ICANN decision to be made in
>>> regards to the sale of the Public Interest Registry, PIR. As ISOC does not
>>> appear to have the same transparency
>>>
>> when it comes to the correspondence it receives as ICANN does, the
>>> Statement does not appear on any ISOC sanctioned Web site.
>>>
>> Should the ICANN Board be made aware of this advice from Chapters in a
>>> formal way or should Chapters inform the ICANN Board directly themselves?
>>>
>>
>> On transparency and on the difference between ICANN and ISOC in the style
>> of working, we could say that ISOC has its own conventions.
>>
>> In this matter pertaining to Chapter AC advice, CHAC could ask the BoT if
>> the Chapter advice is cross referenced in any of the BoT correspondence
>> with ICANN, and if not, if it would please the BoT to direct Staff to
>> forward the Chapter advice to ICANN for information, without comment.
>>
>> The Chapter advice is otherwise more of an internal process, as an advice
>> to BoT. ChAC, even if constituted as a Constituency may not step out
>> independently to engage directly with organizations outside, and it may not
>> exactly be in order to directly write to organizations outside, except to
>> ask, persuade and sometimes even force the BoT to take note of it's
>> positions, record, publish and even publicize.
>>
>> I am not sure if the legal point of view would be the same.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>>
>>
>> I am mindful of not mixing Chapters & ALSes. Kindest regards, Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:26:48 -0400
>>> From: Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates
>>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>> Reply-To: Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
>>> <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
>>> To: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo at ericsson.com>
>>> <Gonzalo.Camarillo at ericsson.com>, Kevin Craemer <Craemer at isoc.org>
>>> <Craemer at isoc.org>
>>> CC: Chapters AC Elist <ChaptersAC-SC at elists.isoc.org>
>>> <ChaptersAC-SC at elists.isoc.org>, Chapter Delegates
>>> <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>,
>>> INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at connectedcommunity.org,
>>> INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaders at connectedcommunity.org
>>>
>>> Distinguished Members of the Board:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Chapter Advisory Council Steering Committee (ChAC-SC) is submitting
>>> the following advice for your consideration:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: Second Advice on PIR Sales to Ethos
>>>    Capital <https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q>
>>>       - *Advice*: *“We reiterate that the sale of PIR to Ethos Capital
>>>       should not proceed until, unless proscribed by law, the following
>>>       conditions are met, and the ISOC Board has taken into account the comments
>>>       received after the information requested below is made public”*
>>>       - Text link: ( <http://goog_419103278>
>>>       https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q)
>>>       - Approved by 68% of the 73 chapters that participated
>>>    2. Advice 2020.04.17-02 :: Second Advice on
>>>    <https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim> ISOC
>>>    Constituencies Consultation
>>>    <https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim>
>>>    - *Advice*: *“Initiate a process to change the ISOC Bylaws so that
>>>       the current communities that elect Trustees (that is, the Organizational
>>>       Members, the Chapters, and the IETF) are considered as constituencies and
>>>       so that they must be consulted prior to any major financial and
>>>       strategically significant operational decisions being taken ”*
>>>
>>>       - Text link: (
>>>       https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim)
>>>       - Approved by 89% of the 73 chapters that participated
>>>    3. Advice 2020-04-17-03 ::Second Advice on Bylaws Changes
>>>    <https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8>
>>>    - *Advice*: *“We reiterate that the Board charters a small group
>>>       comprised of members of the Board and members of the Advisory Committees
>>>       (ACs) to consider possible changes to ISOC’s Bylaws that would strengthen
>>>       the roles of the ACs in general and the Chapters in particular.”*
>>>
>>>       - Text link: (
>>>       https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8)
>>>       - Approved by 90% of the 73 chapters that participated
>>>
>>> A total of 73 chapters (68% of 107 with assigned delegates or 58% of 126
>>> active) participated in the vote call during the period 21 April 2020 to 28
>>> April 2020, inclusive. The vote was quorate by 384% (73/19).
>>>
>>> A detailed list of the chapters that voted can be found in the following
>>> link: https://isoc.box.com/s/ct67lgxxf8e4mermrrijw0yz0cg5ngj1 and vote
>>> results in the following one:
>>> https://isoc.box.com/s/e4o3osfys4xmn1a8exva7nxvyvij4i5z.
>>> The actual vote was anonymous.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that all advices are based on information available as of 10
>>> April 2020.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for the opportunity to work with you to make ISOC a better
>>> organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eduardo Díaz
>>>
>>> Chair
>>> ChAC-SC
>>> cc: Full ChAC, ChAC-SC, Chapter Delegates, Chapter Leaders
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