[CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

Sat Aug 29 20:37:40 UTC 2020

I like this: “Successful specifications will provide some benefit to all the

   relevant parties because standards do not represent a zero-sum game.

   However, there are sometimes situations where there is a conflict

   between the needs of two (or more) parties.

   In these situations, when one of those parties is an "end user" of

   the Internet -- for example, a person using a web browser, mail

   client, or another agent that connects to the Internet -- the

   Internet Architecture Board argues that the IETF should favor their

   interests over those of other parties.”

De: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> En nombre de Jonathan Zuck
Enviado el: sábado, 29 de agosto de 2020 17:22
Para: Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>
CC: cpwg at icann.org
Asunto: Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

And in the near term, Holly might want to bring it up during her DOH
webinar...

Jonathan Zuck
Innovators Network Foundation
www.InnovatorsNetwork.org <http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> 

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Subject: Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users 

Thank you David,

@Jonathan, it is worth discussing RFC8890 at at-large.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org
<mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> > wrote:

Thanks David. Very interesting. The At-Large DOES operate on some
principles, for sure and this has lead to disagreements with others in
things like GDPR compliance and indigenous interests to domain names. It's
difficult to be so out numbered but I'll be interested

to see where this goes. Thanks for sharing.

Jonathan

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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:49:29 PM

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Subject: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

FYI: 

The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) recently published “RFC: 8890 - The
Internet is for End Users” which some people in the CPWG may find
interesting. 

The RFC highlights a number of important policy/standards areas that overlap
with At-Large policy creation. 

The IAB seems to feel it’s important for IETF standards to be developed
under the guidance of explicitly stated principles. The idea of policy
making being guided by explicitly stated principles is something that the
At-Large community may wish to consider

too. 

RFC 8890 - The Internet is for End Users
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8890> 

Mark Nottingham <https://www.mnot.net/blog/2020/08/28/for_the_users> ’s Blog
Post which describes the reasons for publishing RFC 8890.

Cheers!

David

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