[CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

[Holly Raiche]

Finally - a definition of ‘end user’ from the tech community - which, of course, I will use.

Holly

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:37 AM, <alberto at soto.net.ar> <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:
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> I like this: “Successful specifications will provide some benefit to all the
>    relevant parties because standards do not represent a zero-sum game.
>    However, there are sometimes situations where there is a conflict
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>    In these situations, when one of those parties is an "end user" of
>    the Internet -- for example, a person using a web browser, mail
>    client, or another agent that connects to the Internet -- the
>    Internet Architecture Board argues that the IETF should favor their
>    interests over those of other parties.”
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> De: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org>> En nombre de Jonathan Zuck
> Enviado el: sábado, 29 de agosto de 2020 17:22
> Para: Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>>
> CC: cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>
> Asunto: Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
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> And in the near term, Holly might want to bring it up during her DOH webinar...
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> Jonathan Zuck
> Innovators Network Foundation
> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org <http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/>
> From: Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com <mailto:nadira.araj at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:20:10 PM
> To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>>
> Cc: cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org> <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
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> Thank you David,
> @Jonathan, it is worth discussing RFC8890 at at-large.
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> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
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>> Thanks David. Very interesting. The At-Large DOES operate on some principles, for sure and this has lead to disagreements with others in things like GDPR compliance and indigenous interests to domain names. It's difficult to be so out numbered but I'll be interested
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>> to see where this goes. Thanks for sharing.
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>> From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of David Mackey <mackey361 at gmail.com <mailto:mackey361 at gmail.com>>
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>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:49:29 PM
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>> To: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>>
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>> Subject: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
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>> The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) recently published “RFC: 8890 - The Internet is for End Users” which some people in the CPWG may find interesting. 
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>> The RFC highlights a number of important policy/standards areas that overlap with At-Large policy creation. 
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>> The IAB seems to feel it’s important for IETF standards to be developed under the guidance of explicitly stated principles. The idea of policy making being guided by explicitly stated principles is something that the At-Large community may wish to consider
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>> RFC 8890 - The Internet is for End Users <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8890>
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>> Mark Nottingham’s Blog Post <https://www.mnot.net/blog/2020/08/28/for_the_users> which describes the reasons for publishing RFC 8890.
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