[CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users

[Maureen Hilyard]

I liked that bit too Alberto .:)

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 10:38 AM <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:

> I like this: “Successful specifications will provide some benefit to all
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> *De:* CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> *En nombre de *Jonathan Zuck
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 29 de agosto de 2020 17:22
> *Para:* Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>
> *CC:* cpwg at icann.org
> *Asunto:* Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
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> And in the near term, Holly might want to bring it up during her DOH
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> Jonathan Zuck
> Innovators Network Foundation
> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org
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> *From:* Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 4:20:10 PM
> *To:* Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
> *Cc:* cpwg at icann.org <cpwg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
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> Thank you David,
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> @Jonathan, it is worth discussing RFC8890 at at-large.
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> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:08 PM Jonathan Zuck <
> JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
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> Thanks David. Very interesting. The At-Large DOES operate on some
> principles, for sure and this has lead to disagreements with others in
> things like GDPR compliance and indigenous interests to domain names. It's
> difficult to be so out numbered but I'll be interested
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> to see where this goes. Thanks for sharing.
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> Jonathan
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> *From:* CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of David Mackey <
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> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:49:29 PM
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> *To:* CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
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> *Subject:* [CPWG] RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users
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> The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) recently published “RFC: 8890 - The
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> The RFC highlights a number of important policy/standards areas that
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> The IAB seems to feel it’s important for IETF standards to be developed
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> RFC 8890 - The Internet is for End Users
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8890>
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> Mark Nottingham’s Blog Post
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