[CPWG] PIR sale…

Fri Jan 3 16:31:56 UTC 2020

The rationale and the scope of the request don’t really fit together.  By
definition, the request only includes (1) accounting books and records and
(2) meeting minutes for the Board and its committees.

“Accounting books and records” is not likely to be construed broadly.
Financial records, ledgers, bank statements, financial statements and other
similar stuff is good for looking for financial shenanigans. May not be
worth much here. Minutes is (are?) also fairly specific. Neither category
provides an obvious or self-explanatory path to getting anything submitted
by ISOC, PIR or Ethos, or any internal ICANN documents that are not
obviously financial accounting documents.

While it could still be a worthwhile request, its limited scope should be
understood.

I would also like to know who we are really supporting if we support this.
Maybe Jonathan is wrong and this is merely a sincere, self-generated
concern of the RIRs. Or maybe there is another organization behind this. If
it’s the latter, I’d like to know who we’re getting in bed with, so to
speak.

Greg

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:20 AM Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:

> Let's do that
>
> Marita
> On 1/3/2020 10:59 AM, lists at christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
>
> I agree with Evan's assessment …
>
> CW
>
> On 3 Jan 2020, at 01:37, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>
> It does make our lives easier. We can now simply back up the rationale of
> the NRO action and request that ICANN give serious attention to the public
> interest consequences of the transfer.
>
>
> ___________________
> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto
> @evanleibovitch/@el56
>
> On Thu., Jan. 2, 2020, 4:17 p.m. Jonathan Zuck, <
> JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
>
>> I suspect, from reading how carefully this is worded, that EFF is behind
>> this. Very interesting tactic.
>>
>> Jonathan Zuck
>> Executive Director
>> Innovators Network Foundation
>> www.Innovatorsnetwork.org <http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/>
>>
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>> *From:* CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <
>> alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:59:15 PM
>> *To:* lists at christopherwilkinson.eu <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>;
>> cpwg at icann.org <cpwg at icann.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [CPWG] PIR sale…
>>
>> Thanks Christopher.
>>
>> Unless I missed something, this is a rather historic action. It is the
>> FIRST time the accountability powers given to the ICANN community with its
>> new Bylaws have been used in a proactive way, and by the part of the ICANN
>> Community least expected to intervene when not directly impacted.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> At 01/01/2020 08:51 AM, lists at christopherwilkinson.eu wrote:
>>
>> FYI
>>
>> The Number Resource Organization (NRO) Issues Inspection Request to ICANN
>> Concerning the .ORG Sale
>> <https://circleid.us15.list-manage.com/track/click?u=71b27c0808a16ff6f58bfc4fc&id=e1426faeb7&e=0b1201fc7b>
>>
>> CW
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