[CPWG] The crux of the COM issue

Sun Jan 5 18:12:22 UTC 2020

Nat,
I like the first part of your reasoning: it is not in the best interest of registrants to pay unjustified higher prices.
However, the cost of a domain name for a plain user can be a few dimes higher because of the registry raising their prices, or orders of magnitude higher because the domain name they would like to get is available only in the secondary market.
Different people might have different ideas on what is worse.
Cheers,
Roberto

On 05.01.2020, at 18:28, Nat Cohen <ncohen at telepathy.com<mailto:ncohen at telepathy.com>> wrote:

Jonathan,

I find it disturbing that while you are participating in At-Large nominally as a representative of the best interests of end-users, you consistently adopt talking points pushed by Verisign and PIR and bash domain investors.

While domain investors are affected by price hikes, so is each and every registrant of .org and .com.  You have so far failed to explain why it is in the best interests of .org and .com registrants to pay unjustified higher prices to continue the use of their domain names, for the sole benefit of those registries that are already being overpaid for the services they provide.

For those with an interest, here is the link to the ICA's statement laying out many reasons for concern with the handling and the terms of the proposed renewal of the .com agreement: https://www.internetcommerce.org/ica-statement-on-icanns-announced-changes-to-the-com-registry-agreement/

Regards,

Nat Cohen
President
Telepathy, Inc.
www.Telepathy.com<http://www.telepathy.com/>

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:09 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
My point, to be clear, is that these price hikes really only affect the investor community and will, as Evan has suggested, help clear some clutter out of the secondary market.

Jonathan Zuck
Executive Director
Innovators Network Foundation
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Subject: Re: [CPWG] The crux of the COM issue

Somewhat reminiscent of what was suggested as the third position in the ALAC Statement of May 2019 on the .org RA renewal.

Justine Chew
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On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:03, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll at ca.inter.net>> wrote:

I can't find an copy of the NCSG letter on the ICANN website but a copy is posted on the Internet Gov. org site (https://www.internetgovernance.org/2019/12/11/icann-told-to-make-ethos-capital-conform-to-original-org-rfp-criteria/)

NSCG is asking for (among other things):

A revised notification procedure in which wholesale price increases of any amount give ORG registrants 6 months to renew their domains for periods of up to 20 years at the pre-existing annual rate. Implementation of this revised notification procedure must be obligatory to both PIR as well as any registrar through which .org domain names are registered and/or renewed.

Marita

On 1/5/2020 10:43 AM, Marita Moll wrote:

Milton Mueller suggested that angle quite awhile ago and I think it forms part of their letter to ICANN  re: this issue. It is one of the contractual things that is actually within ICANN's purview and, from what I have read, would not be very appealing to a for profit private equity firm -- seriously limits their options.

Marita

On 1/4/2020 10:40 PM, Jonathan Zuck wrote:
https://www.kickstartcommerce.com/about-that-10-year-renewal-strategy-for-com-domains.html

Jonathan Zuck
Executive Director
Innovators Network Foundation
www.Innovatorsnetwork.org<http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/>

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