[CPWG] Posted on At-Large Community chat

David Mackey mackey361 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 8 14:05:19 UTC 2020


I've heard the following argument used multiple times now to justify the
transaction ...

"transaction is designed and intended to serve the public interest in two
distinct ways: (1) by ensuring the long-term growth and development of the
.ORG domain, and (2) by providing essential support for the ongoing work of
the Internet Society."

Can anyone tell me why .ORG "growth" benefits anyone other than Ethos? Am I
missing something?

I have not yet seen any argument that this transaction benefits end users,
however, I have seen added risks to end users by changing the future role
that PIR would play in the Internet ecosystem.

Cheers!
David

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:34 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Justine,
>
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 00:41 Justine Chew, <justine.chew at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not going to venture into the debate about price of .org domain,
>> renewal or otherwise.
>>
>
> SO: +1
>
>
>> More importantly, it seems to me that the chances of ICANN negotiating to
>> get, at minimum, all these expressed commitments incorporated in an
>> amendment to the .org RA are pretty high, given that ISOC, PIR and Ethos
>> Capital have all jointly announced them.
>>
>>
>> https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/the-internet-society-pir-and-ethos-respond-to-congressional-letter
>>
>>
>> https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/commentary-what-makes-ethos-capital-a-responsible-steward-of-pir
>>
>> And if ICANN doesn't succeed fairly immediately, that would give us some
>> indication of the integrity of that tripartite relationship.
>>
>
> SO: Has ICANN indicated officially that they will be engaging in such a
> negotiation (which can only be review of .org contract)? Will appreciate
> reference to that.
>
> Regards
>
>
>> Justine
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 07:06 Alberto soto, <alberto at soto.net.ar> wrote:
>>
>>> With this there is no concern about price increases?
>>> Regards
>>> Alberto
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:13 PM -0300, "Maureen Hilyard" <
>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ISOC posted their response to the Wyden letter in a blog post and in a
>>>> letter to the Senate. It can be seen here,
>>>> https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/the-internet-society-pir-and-ethos-respond-to-congressional-letter
>>>>
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