[CPWG] Calif. AG mentions ALAC advice in note to ICANN re: PIR

[David Mackey]

It's hard to see the words "There is mounting concern that ICANN is no
longer responsive to the needs of its stakeholders." as being positive for
ICANN without thoughtful reflection.

It also seems that the position of the California Attorney General aligns
better with the dissent voiced in the At-Large CPWG email thread
discussions, rather than the advice that was eventually given to the board.

The final .ORG decision may over, but I hope there's opportunity for a
discussion on how to improve the At-Large consensus process.

It appears the dissent voices raised in this email group did, in fact, have
merit and were not easily dismissed outside the At-Large community as being
merely "passionate".

It might be a good idea to see how we as a community can better encapsulate
dissent and non-consensus into our process.


On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:45 AM Matthias M. Hudobnik <matthias at hudobnik.at>
wrote:

> Well said Jonathan!
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> Have a nice day!
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> Best,
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> M.
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> Ing. Mag. Matthias M. Hudobnik
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> *Von:* CPWG [mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org] *Im Auftrag von *Jonathan Zuck
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 18. April 2020 09:49
> *An:* Maureen Hilyard; Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> *Cc:* CPWG
> *Betreff:* Re: [CPWG] Calif. AG mentions ALAC advice in note to ICANN re:
> PIR
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> Interesting indeed.  I would stress, however, that it might have much to
> do with our brand (as the sympathetic voice of end users) as it did with
> our content. Persistence of Perspective!
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> *From: *CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <
> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:53 PM
> *To: *Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [CPWG] Calif. AG mentions ALAC advice in note to ICANN re:
> PIR
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> Interesting that it was our almost two pages of practical advice from the
> ALAC that gained the attention of the AG to use as a lash on ICANN than the
> letters to the Board from the ASO and NCSG.
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> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
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> Indeed, interesting and noteworthy to point out that ALAC statements do
> have impact.
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> Its a pity because the PDF of the ALAC statement is on the wiki, the link
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> https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+ISOC+Sells+PIR?preview=/120821713/126423106/ALAC%20Advice%20to%20the%20ICANN%20Board%20on%20the%20ISOC%3APIR%20Issue%20-%20FINAL%20310120.pdf
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> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 9:44 PM Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
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> Wow, quite a slap down by the AG of California.  ALAC advice re: this
> issue referenced as reasons for concern.
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> Marita
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