[CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings

Holly Raiche h.raiche at internode.on.net
Thu May 21 22:15:07 UTC 2020


I like the idea of not using the term ‘single issue’ CPWG calls.  Let’s call them what they are - calls on XXXXX subject.  And for those interested in the topic, attendance is nice but not mandatory.  Keep the CPWG calls so that people can have an overview of what is going on and then dig deeper into the issue(s) they want to follow.  Ed’s right - they are interesting, but they eat into people’s time.

Indeed, at some point, we need to ask ourselves how much of people’s volunteer time ICANN can rightly claim, and what can reasonably be expected of any one individual. (particularly when a lot of those calls are not Sydney-Friendly times)

Holly

> On May 22, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
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> I guess I see all of this as a a symptom of just having too much to do. THAT is the real issue. The alternative is to just have a longer call or more than I e cpwg call which seems like even more. Dunno
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> Jonathan Zuck
> Executive Director
> Innovators Network Foundation
> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org <http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/>
> From: Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 2:02:25 PM
> To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
> Cc: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings
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> Exactly my point! 
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> I am interested in being able to collaborate and provide my input in the regular CPWG meeting discussions therefore I feel compelled to participate in these single issue meetings (which by the way are very enlightening) to do so. Otherwise, why I am participating in the CPWG at all?
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> The problem is not the single issue meeting itself is the additional meetings.
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> -ed
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> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 4:49 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
> Actually, the way we've been doing them there's no duplication. If you miss the single purpose, it's not discussed again on the CPWG call so it really is up to you. 
> 
> Jonathan Zuck
> Executive Director
> Innovators Network Foundation
> www.InnovatorsNetwork.org <http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/>
> From: Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com <mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 1:36:24 PM
> To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>>
> Cc: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings
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> Jonathan:
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> The thing is that it is expected for all CPWG participants to also participate in these single issue meetings. How are we expected to contribute during the regular CPWG meeting discussions if we do not the issues at hand as well as the folks that want to dive deeper into the subject.
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> -ed
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> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:18 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
> Thanks Eduardo. I guess I see the single purpose meetings as a kind of ad hoc subcommittee of only folks that want to dive deeper into that subject. We need to “keep the lights on,” so to speak, on the CPWG calls and make sure we’re covering all that needs discussing on a particular week so we can’t really just convert them to single purpose as we might start letting things fall between the cracks. Does that make sense?
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> Jonathan
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> From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org <mailto:cpwg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com <mailto:eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>>
> Date: Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 12:16 PM
> To: CPWG <cpwg at icann.org <mailto:cpwg at icann.org>>
> Subject: [CPWG] About Single Subject Meetings
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> I have noticed that, more and more, we are having CPWG single subject meetings in addition to the weekly CPWG meetings. 
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> It is my strong impression that this is causing "meeting fatigue". As a result, we may start to see a drop in participation and hence its effectiveness.
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> I recommend that instead of having additional meetings, use the CPWG weekly meetings and convert them into CPWG single issue meetings when necessary.
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> -ed
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