[CPWG] (Final Call) Comments by Wed, 7 April 15:00 UTC: Draft ALAC Advice on Subsequent Procedures v2.0

Wed Apr 7 12:10:29 UTC 2021

Hello Dr Chan,

I have replied to your comment in the googledoc itself.

As Christopher said,.HK is the ccTLD for Hong Kong, and so, it doesn't fall
within the rules for New gTLDs. ccTLDs are solely a matter for the ccNSO
and its respective member countries.

As for competing applications for the same non-capital city name strings,
there are existing rules in the 2012 Applicant Guidebook (AGB) that govern
how such competing applications are to be dealt with. The 2012 AGB will be
updated as part of the implementation of consensus policies derived from
the SubPro PDP Final Report and other relevant PDPs The challenge is that
not all such policies are necessarily supported in totality by all parts of
the ICANN community -- indeed, that is why this ALAC Advice to the ICANN
Board is contemplated for areas what At-Large believes is either
unacceptable or deficient and requires the Board's consideration or
intervention.

Kind regards,
Justine

On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 19:52, mail at christopherwilkinson.eu CW <
mail at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

> Dear Yik-chan Chin 钱忆亲 <#m_7907209750433050121_>:
>
> Thankyou for your question.
>
> First, responding to your example: HK is one of the two letter ISO 3166
> codes that has already been delegated as a ccTLD. All other 2 letter codes
> are excluded from gTLDs.
>
> So, Haokao town could apply for <.Haokao> without any duplication with
> Hong Kong.
>
> Secondly, and more generally, this is unfinished business. There are
> indeed quite a few duplicate names world-wide.  In the Sub-Pro PDP this has
> been used as a justification for granting none or very limited protection
> to non-Capital City names, with which I disagree. There are thousands of
> non-Capital City names that should be equally eligible for protection, and
> which are not duplicates.
>
> If more than one application  emerges for the same non-Capital City name,
> ICANN will have to develop a procedure for dealing with that. It is not
> beyond the wit of the community to do that! I have some suggestions, if
> necessary in due course.
>
> Best regards
>
> Christopher Wilkinson
>
> El 7 de abril de 2021 a las 12:39 钱忆亲 <yik-chan.chin at bnu.edu.cn>
> escribió:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> I made one comment regard to the criteria of defining non-capital city.
>
>
> Meanwhile, may I ask one additional question:
>
>
> if two cities in one country apply for the same geographic name at TLD,
> for example Haokao and Hong Kong both apply for the HK domain, what is the
> principle of  deciding which applicant should have that HK domain? is it
> based on first come first serve principle?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Best,
>
> Yik Chan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> New Articles/Book:
>
>
>
>
> Chin, Yik Chan (2020) ‘Internet governance in China: the network
> governance approach’ In Dragan Pavlićević and Zhengxu Wang (eds.) Social
> Relations and Political Development in China: Change and Continuity in the
> ‘New Era’, London: Routledge: page 134-153.
>
> Chin, Yik Chan (2018) Legitimation of Media Regulation in China, Chinese
> Political Science Review, 3(2), 172-194.
>
> Chin, Yik Chan (2016) Television Regulation and Media Policy in China,
> Routledge:
> https://www.routledge.com/Television-Regulation-and-Media-Policy-in-China/Chin/p/book/9780415490832
>
> ---------
> Dr. Yik Chan Chin
> Associate Professor
> School of Journalism and Communication
> Beijing Normal University
> Beijing, P. R. China 215123
> Email: yik-chan.chin at bnu.edu.cn；yikchanchin at gmail.com
>
> https://sjc.bnu.edu.cn/sztd/jsdw2/fjs/106759.html
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yik_Chan_Chin
>
> http://ssrn.com/author=1377946
>
> https://bnu.academia.edu/YikChanChin
>
> https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=u41w5b4AAAAJ&hl=en
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Messages-----
> *From:* "Alan Greenberg via CPWG" <cpwg at icann.org>
> *Sent Time:* 2021-04-07 10:21:47 (Wednesday)
> *To:* "mail at christopherwilkinson.eu CW" <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu>,
> "Marita Moll" <mmoll at ca.inter.net>, "Marita Moll via CPWG" <cpwg at icann.org>,
> h.raiche at internode.on.net, "Justine Chew" <justine.chew at gmail.com>
> *Cc:*
> *Subject:* Re: [CPWG] (Final Call) Comments by Wed, 7 April 15:00 UTC:
> Draft ALAC Advice on Subsequent Procedures v2.0
>
> I am making some suggested changes, largely driven by the discussion on
> RVCs held during our recent plenary session. They will be done in the next
> couple of hours.
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 2021-04-06 09:37 AM, mail at christopherwilkinson.eu CW via CPWG wrote:
>
> No further comments. OK.
>
> Thankyou, Justine.
>
> CW
>
> El 6 de abril de 2021 a las 15:24 Marita Moll via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
> escribiÃ³:
>
> No final comments from me except to say that this document articulates
> very clearly where At Large stands on many issues and will continue to be
> an excellent reference document for some time to come.
>
> Marita
> On 4/5/2021 6:44 PM, h.raiche--- via CPWG wrote:
>
> Thanks Justine
>
> Happy with your additional comments on SSAC 115 particularly
>
> Holly
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Justine Chew via CPWG < cpwg at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> The ALAC Advice to the ICANN Board on Subsequent Procedures, draft v2.0
> (Comment-only Googledoc)
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/15lERHqqfqjyK4p2Hz8uhX_ApX6eKUrc5OjSxGVbeNbM/edit?usp=sharing>
> has been updated to specifically address the input on DNS abuse mitigation,
> SAC115 and the SSR2 Final Report,  received during last week's CPWG call of
> 31 Mar.
>
> Since the vast majority of this draft advice has been open for feedback
> for many weeks, I am asking for final comments on it, if any, by this *Wednesday,
> 7 April at 15:00 UTC* so that it can be finalized for ratification by the
> ALAC before submission to the ICANN Board.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justine Chew
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