[CPWG] Today's call

[sivasubramanian muthusamy]

Roberto,

If there is a geopolitical forum, a fitting topic for the forum would be
one that would discuss positive ways of bringing political blocks together
to keep the Internet global. It needs to be a conversation to determine
confidence building measures and foster dialogue, not merely complain that
the Internet is being pulled in different directions.

Sivasubramanian M



On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:15 PM Roberto Gaetano via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I have another commitment that I am unable to postpone, so, regretfully, I
> will not attend this call.
>
> I will therefore paste below a contribution that I have provided to
> another list to provide my position for the topic at hand - and add a
> couple of comments to observations made yesterday in the chat.
>
> *I believe that ICANN does have a political role, the point is to be clear
> about what role and in favour of whom.*
> *To resist the temptation to cut off pieces of the unique, interoperable
> Internet *is* a political position, whether it comes from Ukraine to close
> .ru or from the US to close .ly or .ir.*
>
> *No matter how sad we are about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and how
> frustrated we are for not being able to do much, we have to understand that
> while us, as individuals, have these feelings, ICANN has to act taking a
> higher view of the issues at hand, abstracting from the current situation
> and holding tightly to general principles. And the general principle is
> that whatever results in breaking the unique, interoperable Internet is
> *bad* and must not be done.*
>
> *Just think how happy would be the Russian and Chinese Governments, to
> name just two of the many, who have asked for some form of breaks in the
> Internet infrastructure or have actively put barriers that break the
> interoperability - not to even mention uniqueness - of the Internet? I can
> hear them say, maybe at a UN meeting:  “You see that they speak one thing
> and do the opposite?”; “So breaking the Internet is possible and
> accepted?”; and, last but not least “How can we leave the coordination of a
> global infrastructure in the hands of a body that takes decisions in favour
> of one part of the world?”*
>
> *Obviously, the same rules would apply if Russia manages to get control
> over the Ukrainian Government, and a new Ukrainian government asks IANA to
> relegate .ua: the relegation should be denied.*
>
>
>
> *16:38:48 From Jeffrey Neuman to Everyone: *There are other types of
> things that can be done: (a) ICANN can stop using vendors based in Russia,
> (b) ICANN can not consider fellows from Russia, (c) they can donate money
> to support the infrastructure of the Internet in Ukraine, etc.
>
> I agree, there are other things that can be considered that do not risk to
> break the Internet. Of course, every idea should be discussed to figure out
> the (possibly unintended) consequences. For instance I wonder whether (b)
> above would eliminate the possibility to young people to come to an ICANN
> meeting and hear voices that differ from the domestic propaganda. OTOH (c)
> seems perfect - and also timely ad there might be disruptions caused by the
> war that have to be cured.
>
> One thing that the GAC could do is to propose a motion. After all, the UN
> GA has passed a motion with some 140+ Yes, 5 No, some 35 abstain (if I
> remember correctly) and chances are that we have in the GAC a similar
> distribution.
>
> I am also sure that the ICANN 73 agenda will be updated including space
> for discussions about this topic. Regardless the action that we take about
> the Russian invasion of Ukraine there is the need to discuss among
> ourselves the different position in a plenary where all stakeholder groups
> are presenting their view. There has been also a direct request to Göran by
> the Ukrainian Government (attached below), to which Göran has so replied:
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-fedorov-02mar22-en.pdf -
> I think that it is important that the community takes a common position
> that the different stakeholders could present in case they are faced with
> similar requests.
>
> I will listen to the recording
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
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