[CPWG] Google pushes .zip and .mov domains onto the Internet, and the Internet pushes back

Wed May 31 05:56:42 UTC 2023

There are not many ICANN-related issues that break through to the general
consciousness and mainstream media.  The attempted sale of .ORG was one
such issue.

.ZIP (specifically) is another such issue.  I have seen it now mentioned on
TV news.  I have also seen a large global financial institution issue a
warning about .zip to employees and vendors, even while noting the gTLD's
existence is "above board."

It is true that .zip is not unique in the type of risk it might pose.

However, I think it is fair to consider .zip a highly malignant variation
on this type of risk, with some special features. "Zip files" are sent by
email all day every day by general business and non-business users. Indeed,
they exist to be sent by email. ".io files" do not fit the same profile
(and .io is a ccTLD, which changes the analysis as well).

While this might be an opportunity to educate end-users about the existence
of the larger problem, the .zip problem cannot be treated as merely one of
many.

Greg

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:21 PM Justine Chew via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
wrote:

> Maria,
>
> Carlton is correct. In the 2012 round, there was a Top-Level Reserved
> Names List which contained strings that were not allowed, these were mainly
> associated with ICANN-related entities and functions as well as some
> "well-known technical words":
>
> AFRINIC  ALAC  APNIC  ARIN  ASO  CCNSO  EXAMPLE  GAC  GNSO  GTLD-SERVERS
> IAB  IANA  IANA-SERVERS ICANN IESG IETF
> INTERNIC  INVALID  IRTF ISTF  LACNIC  LOCAL LOCALHOST NIC  NRO
> RFC-EDITOR  RIPE  ROOT-SERVERS  RSSAC  SSAC  TEST
> TLD  WHOIS  WWW
>
> For the next round, the ICANN Board has already approved a SubPro PDP
> recommendation to add PTI to the above list.
>
> Justine
>
>
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 07:18, Carlton Samuels via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maria,
>> Not sure if forbidden is the right label here but in the old rules - this
>> would be like the 2012 round of gTLD - each TLD had a list of reserved
>> names, meaning those that could not be in the trade.  If memory serves,
>> those were listed in the RA.
>>
>> At the top level, there are reserved strings that may not be delegated
>> and those were listed. Well, almost all of them anyways; .internet itself
>> was an outlier.
>>
>> Carlton
>>
>> ==============================
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>> On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 17:53, Maria A via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Sorry my view might not be too informed - but what is even Google's
>>> rationale to pushing these?
>>>
>>> Also isn't there some sort of black list of forbidden domains?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Maria
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023, 11:09 PM Jonathan Zuck via CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chantelle,
>>>>
>>>> Let’s find some time on the next CPWG call to discuss this situation.
>>>> This might result in a discussion of advice or in a discussion of
>>>> correspondence to the SSAC. Let’s get it on the agenda. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *CPWG <cpwg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Bill Jouris via
>>>> CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 4:26 PM
>>>> *To: *cpwg at icann.org <cpwg at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [CPWG] Google pushes .zip and .mov domains onto the
>>>> Internet, and the Internet pushes back
>>>>
>>>> I apologize for misunderstanding your point.  Indeed we should look at
>>>> other existing gTLDs as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But .ZIP is something that we already know about, and thus can act on
>>>> immediately.  Plus, as we do so, we create a process for dealing with other
>>>> problematic existing gTLDs as we discover them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill Jouris
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 12:25 PM, Khaled Koubaa via CPWG
>>>>
>>>> <cpwg at icann.org> wrote:
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