[CWG-Stewardship] IANA IPR - Co-ordination amongst the Operational Communities

Jonathan Robinson jrobinson at afilias.info
Wed Dec 2 10:05:03 UTC 2015


All,
 
Below are a set of notes that seek to capture the key points from the most
recent call (25 Nov) on the IANA IPR that we had among the three operational
communities i.e. Numbers, Protocols & CWG Chairs (see below for names of
participants).
 
Any questions/comments on discussions at the last call or how we are
proceeding are welcome.
 
At this stage, we are still discussing timelines and the framework of how we
work together, in order to be able to coordinate and reach an overall
agreement on the IPR principles and framework.
Note: Numbers are suggesting we try to agree on the principles and framework
before the submission of the ICG proposal to the NTIA, and complete
implementation of the IPR before the transition.
 
Once in the implementation phase, it is likely that the group who have been
meeting will participate as observers to ensure that the implementation plan
is consistent with the proposal. 
 
Currently, it is primarily about planning & co-ordination and the
conversation is very respectful of the different operating communities
positions and requirements but there is some sense of time pressure from the
other two OCs.
 
Thanks,
 
 
Jonathan (who has not had the opportunity to run my covering note above by
Lise)
 
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IPR call among the three Operational Communities
 
Wed 25th Nov UTC12:00-12:55
 
[Participants] 
Names    : Jonathan Robinson, Lise Fuhr
Numbers  : Alan Barrett, Nurani Nimpuno, Paul Wilson, Izumi Okutani 
Protocols: Andrew Sullivan, Jari Arkko
 
[Key Points]
 
1. Steps towards implementation: 
Suggested by Jari Arkko and supported by the participants
 
* Work in two stages
In first stage : to be driven between the 3 OCs to find an acceptable
framework
In second stage: the IPR matter is take to the OC and ICANN lawyers for an
implementation that framework. 
 
* The implementation effort is not a place to rethink or renegotiate results
of community or ICG proposals
 
 
2. Update from the CWG:
DT-IPR Intellectual Property Rights
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocwgdtstwrdshp/DT-IPR++Intellectual+P
roperty+Rights
 
* A team dedicated to discuss IPR implementation has been set up 
(lead by Greg Shatan)
- The team does not make final decisions
  It is to make progress in considerations, to then be discussed and
finalised in the CWG
- There is strong recognition of a need to work in timely manner
- Having additional members including IP and Trust expert(s) may be helpful
but work is well underway
 
* Draft on IPR considerations by the CWG IPR team is under development
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZGSlKj-JSXe4T0wWv-hN6srDVOwhRJvQZzRpkGAA
Pk8/edit?usp=sharing
 
* An additional issue which has not been raised: financing of the holder of
the IPR
- The entity holding the IPR will need some funds / funding in order to
be able to properly hold and maintain the IPR
- The IETF Trust will be able to accommodate financing, if the IETF Trust
becomes the holder (Clarified by Jari)
 
 
3. Way Forward:
* Key events to keep in mind towards implementation: 
- Submission of the proposal to the NTIA (although resolution of the IPR
location is not a pre-requisite to submission) and 
- Expiry the IANA contract
 
* Components to agree for 3 OCs to work together: 
- Timelines
- Communication (information sharing of status) 
- Coordination (in discussing issues)
 
* Need for stronger coordination among the three operational communities
- An idea was shared to establish a way to coordinate among the three
operational communities, in parallel to discussions in IPR Team in the CWG
- An observation was made, that there is a room for leaders from the three
communities to lead on setting the framework on how we work
- More to be discussed at the future call
 
* The three communities need to be in sync in the scope of work at each
phase
- Observations were made that there is no need for the IPR Team in the CWG
to solve all details of implementation at this stage
- The CWG DT to focus on high level principles and requirements. It is
anticipated that this will help the three OCs to move forward constructively
and converge. A CWG Co-Chair shared an observation this is a constructive
way forward.
 
 
4. Suggestion: (Not discussed at the call)
   i. Arrange the next call in two weeks time
       - Will set up a doodle poll
 
   ii. By the next call, seek for feedback from each OCs: 
       - Whether syncing key dates with work needed as below can be agreed
 
      [Milestones to target completion of work by three OCs]
      Stage one (agree on principles and framework): 
      before the ICG & CCWG proposals submission to the NTIA (around Feb
2016)
      Stage two (complete implementation on IPR)   : 
      before the IANA contract expiry (Sep 2016)
 
     - CWG Chairs to share key points in the IPR discussions, on anything
which needs coordination by the three OCs
       Invitation open to Greg Shatan as the Chair of DT-IPR 
 
   iii. Move ahead with a Cross-OC group to make progress on this in a
transparent and timely fashion
      - Discussions online before the call on how we start, and discuss at
the next call

 

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