[CWG-Stewardship] Proposed Footnote to inclusion of ICANN as potential signatory on behalf of Names Community

Fri Aug 12 06:29:44 UTC 2016

Hello Kavous,

If ICANN's requirement/condition was not meet, the following text would not
have been included:

"...*ICANN** has indicated that it could serve as the counterparty to the
Community Agreement on behalf of the Names Community*..."

That said, the request actually emanated initially from the CWG( I made the
request) which Greg then forwarded to CWG client and the client then asked
ICANN. Sidley confirmed during the call that they have made the request and
awaiting response(I guess the response must have come subsequently).

Anyway, I think the ship has sailed on this one though it's still on the
move and has not reached final destination yet. Anything that requires
changes can be done during the PC. If ICANN feels they were misinterpreted,
that can be corrected.

Regards
Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 12 Aug 2016 7:11 a.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I understand that we did have a blocking points that who could sign for
> Names Community
>
> I also understand that someone propose that we put ICANN
>
> Similarly I understood that ICANN STAFF indicated that without being
> requested they hesitate to self-nomination
>
> Then someone proposed the following:
> “ *At the request of the CWG-Stewardship, ICANN has indicated ……”*
>
> What I am saying  is from  the procedural view we cannot say immediately
> after such suggestion the entire CWG has unanimously or by consensus
> requested ICANN to do so since ,there was no such request was made by CWG
> to ICANN to sign on our behalf.
>
> However, we could resolve the matter by just instead of CWG we say CWG
> call ,,,,,
>
> That formulation is reflect what has spontaneously happened
>
> That is all
>
> REGARDS
>
> Kavouss
>
>
> 2016-08-12 7:04 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>
>> Go ahead with that 20 supporte
>> Regards
>> KAVOUSS
>>
>> 2016-08-12 1:10 GMT+02:00 Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>:
>>
>>> 20 support > 1 opposed especially considering no one else opposed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounce
>>> s at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Kavouss Arasteh
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:53 PM
>>> *To:* Greg Shatan
>>> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Proposed Footnote to inclusion of
>>> ICANN as potential signatory on behalf of Names Community
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am sorry , once again we state something which does not reflect the
>>> reality.
>>>
>>> 20 people shall not represent the entire community
>>>
>>> You taking an unfair position and pushing for your own position
>>>
>>> WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS INAPPROPRIATE.
>>>
>>> Your unilateral conclusions supported by Beckie and Andrew DID GET THE
>>> AGREEMENT OF THE ENTIRE 130 PEOPLE of CWG
>>>
>>> we need to  have  at least 60 participants
>>>
>>> I am not going to get in another battle with any one
>>>
>>> We fabricate a conclusion which is false and untrue
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Kavouss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-08-11 19:32 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Kavouss, thank you for your comment.  However, Andrew is correct, so we
>>> can't delete that sentence and still include ICANN as the proposed
>>> signatory.  I regret that your comment cannot be accommodated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As Andrew also notes, this is the last open item before the documents
>>> are set out for public comment.  So that the process may move forward, I've
>>> now sent the proposed signatory and the footnote to the IANA IPR email list
>>> so the documents can be finalized and distributed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Andrew Sullivan <
>>> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sam was quite clear that the agreement to put ICANN in there requires
>>> a note that this was at the request of the CWG.
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 06:42:49PM +0200, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>>> > Grec
>>> > This is my suggestion
>>> > Kavouss
>>> > *CWG-Stewardship is considering the appropriate entity to be the
>>> signatory
>>> > to the Community Agreement on behalf of the Names Community. ICANN has
>>> been
>>> > included in this draft.  ICANN (or another counterparty) would be
>>> subject
>>> > to process and criteria as determined by CWG-Stewardship.*
>>> >
>>> > 2016-08-11 18:16 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> > > All,
>>> > >
>>> > > As discussed, the following is the proposed footnote to accompany the
>>> > > inclusion of ICANN (in square brackets to indicate the non-final
>>> nature of
>>> > > that proposal) as the potential signatory to the Community Agreement
>>> on
>>> > > behalf of the Names Community.
>>> > >
>>> > > This will need to be finalized in the next 1-2 hours so that the
>>> documents
>>> > > can be put out for public comment today.  No objections were heard on
>>> > > today's call.  Any violent objections or genius revisions should be
>>> sent in
>>> > > reply to this email.
>>> > >
>>> > > *CWG-Stewardship is considering the appropriate entity to be the
>>> signatory
>>> > > to the Community Agreement on behalf of the Names Community.  At the
>>> > > request of the CWG-Stewardship, ICANN has indicated that it could
>>> serve as
>>> > > the counterparty to the Community Agreement on behalf of the Names
>>> > > Community and ICANN has been included in this draft.  ICANN (or
>>> another
>>> > > counterparty) would be subject to process and criteria as determined
>>> by
>>> > > CWG-Stewardship.*
>>> > >
>>> > > Greg
>>> > >
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