[CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations

Fri Jun 17 16:24:26 UTC 2016

Seun:

We can instantiate PTI with secondment employees to move forward with the
transition but  all PTI new employees after this need to be employees of
PTI.

-ed

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:15 AM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Just thinking aloud here, assuming staff of PTI are handled by secondment,
> what part of the CWG proposal will that go against? How will that hinder
> the community from exercising any of the community powers? What impact will
> it have in the operation of the functions?
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
> On 17 Jun 2016 3:06 p.m., "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
>
>> In my opinion, this is the kind of discussion that is needed.  I
>> sincerely wish we could have had it a couple months ago but it is what it
>> is.  I am looking forward to how staff responds to the issues that have
>> been raised and encourage all of us to work collaboratively to address the
>> issues and facilitate a timely and smooth transition.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
>> cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Mueller, Milton L
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 9:46 AM
>> *To:* kurt at kjpritz.com; Greg Shatan; Jonathan Robinson
>> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing
>> Recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck, Kurt
>>
>> I think Kurt’s approach to the separation is a very radical undoing of
>> the whole PTI model.
>>
>> I really don’t like the way our hard-won reforms are being undone while
>> people’s attention is occupied by other things.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt says:
>>
>> “On a more basic issue, I see no daylight between the loyalty to
>> performing the IANA function and working toward the ICANN mission. They
>> were inextricably bound up at the formation of ICANN. Every organization
>> has some tension between the executive/Board and the operating entities
>> underneath. But I see the mission of PTI and ICANN more aligned than any
>> other combination of PTI and some other organization.”
>>
>>
>>
>> This comment makes me wonder where Kurt was during the extensive
>> discussion and debate over the need to create PTI. He is also wrong about
>> ICANN’s mission, which was redefined precisely to make it clear that the
>> IFO is a contracted function and not a core part of ICANN’s mission.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have agreed as part of the transition that it is important to separate
>> the policy making entity from the implementation entity. Some of us argued
>> that IANA functions should be divested from ICANN altogether. ICANN itself
>> of course wanted to retain a perpetual monopoly on IANA functions. The PTI
>> arrangement was a compromise between those two positions. It is unseemly to
>> try to unwind that compromise at this juncture.
>>
>>
>>
>> By undermining the separation of ICANN and IANA in this way, we are also
>> playing into the hands of those in the U.S. Congress who would call for a
>> delay (which would probably be permanent) in the implementation of the
>> transition. This is true because you are increasing the level of
>> dissatisfaction with the proposed reforms and providing another excuse for
>> people to claim that ICANN cannot be trusted to become independent.
>>
>>
>>
>> --MM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [
>> mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
>> <cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *kurt at kjpritz.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:15 AM
>> *To:* Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>; Jonathan Robinson <
>> jrobinson at afilias.info>
>> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing
>> Recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought that Greg's comments to the ICANN Rationale for PTI Staffing
>> Recommendations merited a response focusing some operational aspects of the
>> plan.
>>
>>
>>
>> To make it easier to read, I pasted Greg's comments into the document
>> itself in italics and then followed those comments with my own.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to read these. i hope they are helpful to your
>> thinking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>>
>> --------- Original Message ---------
>>
>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing
>> Recommendations
>> From: "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>> Date: 6/13/16 1:10 pm
>> To: "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson at afilias.info>
>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> My thoughts on the rationale explanation are on the attached document as
>> marginal comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg Shatan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Robinson <
>> jrobinson at afilias.info> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> FYI.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note We did not have an IOTF call today so have not yet had the
>> opportunity to discuss this item.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Yuko Green [mailto:yuko.green at icann.org]
>> *Sent:* 10 June 2016 18:05
>> *To:* iotf at icann.org
>> *Subject:* [IOTF] Rationale for PTI Staffing Recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear members of the IOTF,
>>
>>
>>
>> Attached, please find the rationale for PTI staffing recommendations we
>> have made in the PTI Implementation Approach document. We look forward to
>> hearing any feedback you may have.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Yuko Green*
>>
>> Strategic Programs Manager
>>
>> Global Domains Division
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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