[CWG-Stewardship] [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Tue Jun 28 14:53:21 UTC 2016

Dear Sean,
Thank you for your email. We will get back to you but since we are busy at the ICANN meeting we haven't had the time to process the issues you raise.
Best,
Lise

On 28 Jun 2016, at 10:38, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Co-Chairs, all

Apologies again for missing the last meeting but based on Matthew's comment, i have gone to look through the minutes/transcript and i indeed like to make a few note:

1. There were people on record who seem to have already raised my concern on 5.4 response
2. There were few who oppose it (and they happen to be same few opposing it on the list)
3. The rationale given by the Co-Chair(Jonathan) which is about the concern of the PTI president/manager becoming a co-chair is a valid one but not strong enough to restrict to nomcom appointee alone as that issue can be easily avoided by excluding the president from the chair election process.
4. The other rationale stated by the co-chair that our proposal required nomcom to the appointed chair can't seem to be found on the ICG combined proposal sent to the NTIA (did a quick check but will appreciate a pointer).
5. My comment on 5.4 is what is being contended and not that of 7.1

I don't think we should be creating this unnecessary lock-in at all as its not justifiable. The board elects her chair, and none of the chair election will be done without a vote in support from nomcom for the candidate (since its a total of 4 members excluding the president). If the board does not appreciate/like the approach of the chair, then there is the option to replace the chair by the board members, so i have no idea why we are creating this sectionalism within a board that should work as a team! I have posed to Greg/Matthew a few questions in other to understand their rationale but i didn't get any response which is not a good approach to deliberation at all. As minor as this issue may be, there is no reason why missing a meeting would imply one cannot raise a different view and the outcome of the meeting should not (hasn't been in the past) be the final view!

FWIW, some of us have lived with lots of stuff in this process which makes me ask myself occasionally whether we are really ensuring balance of views across the chartering organizations.

Looking forward to read from the Co-Chairs

Regards

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Co-Chairs,

May I know if these comments of mine are received and would be implemented as proposed especially as there is no opposition on the suggestions from the list?

Regards

Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On 27 Jun 2016 01:49, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

Somehow this skipped my raider, while this is already late, i could not come swallow  2 points from the final text.

Section 5.4: I am quite concerned and wonder why we include the following text:
"The Chairperson should be a NomCom nominated director". The board does the selection of chair person, so there is NO reason why ICANN appointed board member cannot be the chairperson if the board wants it. I don't think i dig turning the nomcom nominees into the defacto source of chairperson-hood. It seem to me that we are seeing them as more superior and trustworthy that the rest which is not necessarily always the case. Ofcourse i am with the rest of the response to that question.

Section 7.1: I am concerned by this conclusion "The Corporation will not need additional officers therefore the board does not need this capability." as i think its an unnecessary lock-in and can have unforeseen implications in future. I will be fine with something that reads like below:
"The Corporation should not need additional officers therefore the board may not need this capability. However such may be done with a unanimous votes from board subject to member(s) approval."

Regards

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>> wrote:
Dear all,

Following the CWG-Stewardship call today, here attached are the latest redline and clean versions of the PTI response table to deliver to Sidley. Please review in the next 24h before we consider these final.

Thank you,
Grace

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Subject: Re: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Good catch Chuck. Per your comment and Matthew’s agreement, I was supposed to delete the sentence beginning with “Member approval NOT required….”.

I’ll make the edit in the Google doc and await any further comments before circulating a new version in time for the CWG call.

Thank you,
Grace

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From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com<mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>>
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

The edits look good to me.  Was the second option in Section 7.6.1 supposed to be deleted?

“Board may approve delegation of responsibilities or powers of President.

Member approval NOT required for the prescription of additional duties by the board to the President.[1]   [2]

Member approval required for the prescription of additional powers by the board to the President.”

Chuck

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Subject: [IOTF] Updated draft of responses in PTI Bylaws-AoI table

Dear all,

Per the discussion on today’s IOTF call, here attached is a redline version of the edits discussed on the call and a clean version to present to the CWG-Stewardship on Thursday. Thank you for your patience in the live editing process!

--Grace

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From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>>
Date: Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:47 PM
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Subject: Reminder: Please review the responses in PTI Bylaws table

Dear all,

In absence of the IOTF call today, I would just like to remind you to take some time to review the Google doc table of CWG responses on the PTI Bylaws. There are some notes and live edits made during the last IOTF call, and some comments from Chuck and Avri. The link to the document is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJEqcU/edit?usp=sharing.

I think (but will let the Chairs confirm) that the plan is still to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.

Thank you,
Grace
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Manager, Public Policy

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From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org<mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>>
Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM
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Subject: Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley

Dear all,

Per the email below, steps 1 & 2 have been completed: the CWG-Stewardship Chairs have provided initial responses, and the staff have matched these responses to the transcript of the CWG-Stewardship meeting from last week. The initial responses are available in a Google doc for the IOTF’s comments at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJEqcU/edit?usp=sharing.

Please note that the CWG-Stewardship list is copied for information. Anyone on either of these lists should feel free to review and comment on the initial responses, but the responsibility lies primarily with the IOTF at this stage.

I will let the Chairs clarify the timeline for review, but my understanding is that we would like to have CWG-Stewardship sign-off in time (or during) the CWG-Stewardship meeting on Thursday 16 June. Following group sign-off, the Client Committee would then be able to share the responses with Sidley for incorporation into the PTI Bylaws.

Thank you,
Grace

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Grace Abuhamad
Manager, Public Policy

ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
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Direct: +1 202 249 7545<tel:%2B1%20202%20249%207545> | Mobile: +1 310 200 7638<tel:%2B1%20310%20200%207638>

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Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 4:04 AM
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Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Process for IANA Bylaws - CWG Questions & Issues from Sidley

All,

The substance and process for dealing with CWG Bylaws was discussed this on last week’s CWG call and then followed up by Lise & myself.

Based on the discussions within the CWG, we propose the following course of action in order to get through the work as efficiently as possible.

1.       Chairs will make a first attempt at answering / providing relevant input on the Sidley questions

2.       Staff will review chairs’ input for consistency with the CWG meeting discussions

3.       Answers / input to be shared with IOTF group for further review / development

4.       Answers / input to be shared with CWG for further review / development

5.       Answers / input to be shared via Client Committee with Sidley for incorporation into IANA Bylaws

Thank-you

Lise & Jonathan
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I lean toward this approach. It seems to me that the PTI Board should have this authority on its own; also, it would cause delays if they had to wait to get ICANN approval, causing unnecessary delays.
for so long as such powers were strictly limited according to the PTI mission/role etc.

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