[Epdp-dt] Working Methods

Fri Jun 29 12:57:03 UTC 2018

Hi Donna,

In my opinion, reading a transcript is much faster than listening the real time recording in any case.

Safe travels

On June 29, 2018 7:00:42 AM EST, "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin at team.neustar> wrote:
>A question for our multi-lingual colleagues. Are transcripts
>better/easier for non-English speakers to review a meeting than
>listening to the recording?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>On Jun 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight
><michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>
>If the transcription was “cost effective” then I wouldn’t have as much
>of an issue with it, but I’d prefer we had some visibility on costs
>before we make a commitment to it
>
>A lot of calls / meetings have a lot of spurious discussions which
>aren’t adding any value. Of course there is value in the meetings
>overall, but you should be able to get that from the minutes / notes of
>the meetings
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>From: Carlos Raul Gutierrez
><carlosraul at gutierrez.se<mailto:carlosraul at gutierrez.se>>
>Date: Thursday 28 June 2018 at 16:19
>To: "mpsilvavalent at gmail.com<mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>"
><mpsilvavalent at gmail.com<mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>>
>Cc: Michele Neylon
><michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>>,
>"epdp-dt at icann.org<mailto:epdp-dt at icann.org>"
><epdp-dt at icann.org<mailto:epdp-dt at icann.org>>
>Subject: Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods
>
>
>All cloud services offer now voice to text, and ti takes just a little
>bit of money and a few seconds of ai computational power:
>
>
>
>https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-transcribe-scalable-and-accurate-automatic-speech-recognition/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aws.amazon.com_blogs_aws_amazon-2Dtranscribe-2Dscalable-2Dand-2Daccurate-2Dautomatic-2Dspeech-2Drecognition_&d=DwQGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=mq1skb5YZgLsfca_9RuAVvgxt5VX7GyjxAfJXEdkIF0&e=>
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>
>The problem is not the transcription, but the process ICANN (still)
>uses for transcriptions
>
>
>
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>El 2018-06-28 16:10, Martin Pablo Silva Valent escribió:
>I agree with Ayden that transcript are a useful feature for this kind
>of work at icann. And we already have automated transcript as far as I
>know, we can ask for opinon to staff towards cost, but is not intuitive
>to me that transcripts are not worthy in such a special case. The value
>for transparency and the ability to read debate is also very useful.
>
>
>Cheers,
>Martín
>
>On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 19:29 Michele Neylon - Blacknight
><michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>Ayden
>
>I disagree with the transcription of all meetings. The costs involved
>with that are disproportionately high and ICANN funds would be better
>directed elsewhere
>
>I agree with most of your other points.
>
>Regards
>
>Michele
>
>
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>From: Epdp-dt
><epdp-dt-bounces at icann.org<mailto:epdp-dt-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf
>of Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>
>Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline
><icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>
>Date: Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 17:34
>To: "epdp-dt at icann.org<mailto:epdp-dt at icann.org>"
><epdp-dt at icann.org<mailto:epdp-dt at icann.org>>
>Subject: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods
>
>Hi all,
>
>I would like to request several revisions be made to the EPDP Working
>Methods please:
>
>1) All meetings must be recorded and transcribed.
>
>Please revise this text from:
>
>In addition to the standard services provided to GNSO PDP Working
>Groups such as policy staff support, mailing lists and regular
>conference calls, including recording and transcription where needed
>(frequency and duration to be decided by EPDP team), the EPDP team will
>need appropriate support to:
>
>To:
>
>All calls of the EPDP must be recorded and transcribed, and said
>recordings and call transcriptions must be publicly accessible from the
>ICANN website. Standard support offered to GNSO PDP Working Groups,
>including but not limited to the provision of a wiki space, archived
>mailing lists, and conference call facilities, will be required. In
>addition, the EPDP will need appropriate support to:
>
>2) Google Docs may only be used in conjunction with Google Vault.
>
>Please revise the text from:
>
>the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility
>to facilitate online collaboration, such as the wiki and Google docs.
>
>To:
>
>the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility
>to facilitate online collaboration, but it must do so in accordance
>with the principles of accountability and transparency that are so
>important to the GNSO. If Google Docs or other G Suite products are
>used, it must be used in conjunction with Google Vault, which logs data
>for archival purposes. Similarly, if other tools are used, they may be
>used only if they preserve information to a level that meets or exceeds
>eDiscovery standards in California, being the location of ICANN's
>headquarters.
>
>3) Translation of executive summary and recommendations of the initial
>report for public comment, and of the entire final report, into ICANN's
>official languages.
>
>Suggested text:
>
>The substantive work of the EPDP must be translated into ICANN's
>official languages in order to provide non-English-fluent stakeholders
>with an equal level of access to review the work of the EPDP. For the
>initial report(s), this must consist of the executive summary and
>recommendations, and for the final report, this must be a translation
>of the entire report.
>
>Kind regards,
>Ayden Férdeline
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