[Gac-gnso-cg] Charter - Final version ..

Tue Jan 21 12:54:35 UTC 2014

In the papers produced by this Group we can call it "GNSO Liaison to the GAC".

The notion "reverse liaison" is a handy generic word for the GAC to refer to liaisons from other organizations to the GAC without naming all organizations that have appointed one.

Regards,

Gema

De: gac-gnso-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gac-gnso-cg-bounces at icann.org] En nombre de Manal Ismail
Enviado el: martes, 21 de enero de 2014 9:56
Para: Ana Neves; Mike O'Connor
CC: gac-gnso-cg at icann.org
Asunto: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Charter - Final version ..

In the same context, I want to bring to colleagues' attention the last 2 bullets under the title 'Critical Success Factors' of the charter .. They state:

-    Agree on a follow-up mechanism and success measures

-    Maintain a channel to provide feedback to further enhance the process and document those changes whenever applicable

Both points are relevant to post-implementation assessment, which I believe is a bit early to decide before agreeing on cooperation mechanisms ..

On another note, I would like to grasp the opportunity to make another minor comment on the charter .. I have the feeling that the term 'reverse liaison' is difficult to understand 'reverse to what', unless you have the necessary background:

-    there used to be a GAC liaison to the GNSO

-    the model had its own challenges

-    one suggestion is, to try having a reverse liaison, from the GNSO to the GAC

So if colleagues acknowledge the challenge, I suggest we have this resolved simply by:

-    either writing 'GNSO Liaison to the GAC', without the quotations, before the first occurrence of 'reverse liaison'

-    or have a footnote at the first occurrence of 'reverse liaison', stating background information along the lines of the above 3 bullets

Hope this makes sense ..

Kind Regards

--Manal

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To: Ana Neves; Mike O'Connor
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Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Charter - Final version ..

Many thanks Mikey for the reminder ..

Like Ana, I see the merit behind the 'middle ground' option, which

implies some further commitment to ensure that our set of

recommendations works well in practice ..

Yet, I see this more of a solution aspect rather than a charter one .. I

like the current focused mandate, limited timeline and suggested

milestones as stated in the charter .. When we come to compiling our

recommendations, we can then include one that stresses the need for

post-implementation assessment and fine tuning .. This assessment can be

done by this consultation group, a smaller group, a totally new one, a

mix of old and new members or any other options as agreed by then ..

Looking forward to hearing what other colleagues think ..

Kind Regards

--Manal

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From: Ana Neves [mailto:Ana.Neves at fct.pt]

Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:21 PM

To: Mike O'Connor

Cc: Manal Ismail; gac-gnso-cg at icann.org<mailto:gac-gnso-cg at icann.org>

Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Charter - Final version ..

Thanks, Mikey.

I world be in favour to the "middle ground" proposal for the timeline as

it would allow,?as you well said, a post-implementation assessment. What

we're trying to build here is not an easy task and could be very useful

to follow the process at least for 2 years.

My humble opinion at this stage...

Best, Ana

Sent from my iPhone

On 20/01/2014, at 13:01, "Mike O'Connor"

<mike at haven2.com<mailto:mike at haven2.com<mailto:mike at haven2.com%3cmailto:mike at haven2.com>>> wrote:

there's one thing i forgot to add to that draft.

we had a discussion about how long this committee should last.  an idea

came to me this morning that would represent a middle option between two

extremes.

short extreme - we wrap up after our recommendations have been accepted

by the GAC and the GNSO

middle ground - we wrap up after our recommendations have gone through a

post-implementation assessment (1-2 years out)

long extreme - we continue on as a standing committee

i think part of the reason i forgot to add this to the "timeline"

section is because i wasn't clear what our view was - so maybe we could

have a quick discussion about this on the list before the meeting

tomorrow?

mikey

On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Manal Ismail

<manal at tra.gov.eg<mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg<mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg%3cmailto:manal at tra.gov.eg>>> wrote:

Many thanks Mikey !!

We, Jonathan and I, have added the signing off of the charter to

tomorrow's conference call agenda, which I will be circulating shortly

..

Hope everyone will be ready to adopt the charter by then ..

Kind Regards

--Manal

From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mike at haven2.com]

Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:07 PM

To: Manal Ismail; Marika Konings

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Subject: Re: [Gac-gnso-cg] Charter - Final version ..

hi all,

oops - i didn't structure the action items in my notes from our last

call very well, so i didn't put a trigger in there reminding myself to

update and circulate the draft.

here's a draft for people to review, based on the notes from that call.

my mistake, sorry about that.

mikey

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