[Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue Dec 3 14:51:44 UTC 2019


Hi Janis,

when explained like that, it actually makes sense. As far as a fallback 
position goes, it is not something I would rule out.

Best,

Volker

Am 03.12.2019 um 15:09 schrieb Janis Karklins:
> Dear All,
>
> Let me explain thinking behind the "Decentralized" model.
> It has been mentioned during the Team conversation that "status quo 
> improved" can not be ruled out. Today there isn't system but 
> decentralized mechanism of sending request for private registration 
> information disclosure. Sometimes these requests are answered, 
> sometimes remain without reply.
> Improvements in the current mechanism could be done through 
> standardization of procedures that would be applied by both - 
> requesting entities and responding entities without changing the 
> decentralized nature of mechanism.
> If processes that would be applied in "Status Quo improved" will be 
> standardized, then this mechanism could be qualified as "Standardized 
> System of Access/Disclosure (SSAD)".
> I acknowledge that the Team has agreed on "centralized gateway 
> approach" and works on this assumption. But as a theoretical model 
> "decentralized - status Quo improved" has a justification to exist 
> within defined parameters of our task.
>
> I do not insist on retaining of this option in the initial report, but 
> just wanted to explain the reason behind putting the option in the draft.
>
> JK
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:46 PM Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu 
> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
>
>     That’s the correct way to put it, Volker. No consensus, no SSAD.
>     Perhaps the draft report can be modified to indicate that.
>
>     --MM
>
>     *From:*Gnso-epdp-team <gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-epdp-team-bounces at icann.org>> *On Behalf Of *Volker
>     Greimann
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, December 3, 2019 7:38 AM
>     *To:* gnso-epdp-team at icann.org <mailto:gnso-epdp-team at icann.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-epdp-team] Draft Initial Report
>
>     Ultimately, the "no-SSAD" "option" describes the status quo. In
>     other words, if we as a group fail to reach consensus this is what
>     we'll have, regardless of what we want. Maybe this can serve as
>     encouragement to move away from extreme positions that have a
>     rabbits chance in a snake pit to survive a consensus call...
>
>     Volker
>
>     Am 03.12.2019 um 13:26 schrieb Mueller, Milton L:
>
>         Ha, you spoiled the agreement, Brian. ;-)
>
>         >If I can go so far, I suggest that the initial report indicate
>         that we are
>
>         > working primarily toward the “centralized” model pending
>         crucial input from the DPB.
>
>         This is not our understanding at all. One reason I want to
>         eliminate the “no SSAD” option is that I think it confuses the
>         issue of centralizing requests, which can be done and can gain
>         consensus, versus centralizing the decision maker, which I
>         think is deeply problematic and will never gain consensus.
>
>
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