[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and documents for next WG call on Wednesday 10 June

[Poncelet Ileleji]

Same here I concur with George

Kind Regards

Poncelet.



On 11 June 2015 at 14:25, Jay Chapman <jay at digimedia.com> wrote:

> I agree with George as well.
>
> Jay
> On Jun 10, 2015 8:35 AM, "Paul Keating" <Paul at law.es> wrote:
>
>> I agree with George on these which is why my suggested revisions removed
>> these proposed questions.
>>
>> PRK
>>
>> On 6/10/15 2:09 PM, "George Kirikos" <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>
>> >For point/question #3, in particular:
>> >
>> >"What if the Mutual Jurisdiction requirement specified that, to apply
>> >to IGOs, it has to be a jurisdiction of one of its member states?"
>> >
>> >I don't see how this could ever be acceptable to registrants. For
>> >example, for a North American registrant using a North American
>> >registrar, an IGO consisting of member states from Iran, Iraq, Syria
>> >and Turkey might place the "mutual jurisdiction" in one of those 4
>> >countries that have absolutely nothing to do with the registrant,
>> >rather than in North America.
>> >
>> >The same would apply to the rest of point #3, i.e. allowing the IGO to
>> >"forum shop" by selecting a jurisdiction of a member state. For a
>> >court to even have jurisdiction over a registrant, there must be some
>> >connection to the underlying dispute and parties. That has normally
>> >been (a) location of registrant, (b) location of registrar, or (c)
>> >location of registry operator.
>> >
>> >I know these are just 'exploratory' questions, but I don't see why any
>> >legitimacy should be attached to ad hoc proposals like the above by
>> >submitting them to 'experts' in the first place. This should be about
>> >fact-finding, not an informal 'negotiation' with IGOs.
>> >Conclusions/solutions should flow from the facts. Putting out possible
>> >'solutions' first, and then trying to come up with some 'rationale' to
>> >justify them later is the wrong way to do things, in my opinion.
>> >
>> >Sincerely,
>> >
>> >George Kirikos
>> >416-588-0269
>> >http://www.leap.com/
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>> >> Dear WG members,
>> >>
>> >> The proposed agenda for our next meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 10
>> >>June,
>> >> is as follows:
>> >>
>> >> Roll call/updates to SOI
>> >> Discuss and finalize questions for independent legal expert (see
>> >>attached
>> >> for draft document from the WG co-chairs)
>> >> Planning for WG meeting in Buenos Aires/next steps
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It may be that we will not need the full hour; however, Petter and Phil
>> >> would like the group to have this call prior to the open meeting we are
>> >> scheduled to have in Buenos Aires, on Wednesday 24 June at 10.00 a.m.
>> >>ART
>> >> (local time). For those WG members who will not be present in Buenos
>> >>Aires,
>> >> the usual remote participation facilities will be available, and we¹ll
>> >>send
>> >> call-in and other details prior to the date.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and cheers
>> >> Mary
>> >>
>> >> Mary Wong
>> >> Senior Policy Director
>> >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>> >> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
>> >> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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