[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?

George Kirikos icann at leap.com
Tue Mar 1 14:59:48 UTC 2016


I can make it tomorrow at the usual time, but I'm indifferent as to it
being tomorrow or next week (we'd probably want at least 7 or 8
participants if we're going to have it tomorrow).

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
416-588-0269
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es> wrote:
> Mary. I saw 3 including me.
>
> Sincerely,
> Paul Keating, Esq.
>
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all, as of now we have only received indication from one working group
> member of a wish to have a WG call tomorrow ahead of the Marrakech meeting.
> If you think it would be preferable to schedule a call tomorrow as well,
> please reply as soon as possible so that we can make the necessary
> arrangements and let everyone know.
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Feb 29, 2016, at 13:04, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Please find attached the synopsis document from Professor Swaine that Phil
> referred to in his email update to our Working Group (below). As Phil
> mentioned, his and Petter’s plan is to use this as the basis for discussion
> during the WG meeting at ICANN55, which is currently scheduled for Wednesday
> 9 March.
>
> However, should you wish to hold a brief discussion this Wednesday (at our
> usual meeting time of 1700 UTC) to provide initial feedback on the attached
> synopsis as a preparatory step to the fuller discussion next week, please
> reply to this email accordingly. If a sufficient number of members indicate
> that they would like to meet this week as well, we will go ahead and
> schedule a call accordingly.
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
>
> Mary Wong
> Senior Policy Director
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
> Telephone: +1-603-5744889
>
>
> From: <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Phil Corwin
> <psc at vlaw-dc.com>
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 12:20
> To: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
> Dear IGO CRP WG Members:
>
>
>
> Here is a further update on the situation as regards Prof. Swaine’s legal
> research.
>
>
>
> Petter and I, along with Mary and Steve, engaged in a one hour call
> yesterday with Prof. Swaine in which we discussed our questions and comments
> regarding the current uncompleted draft report, as well as the needs of the
> WG in preparation for Marrakech.
>
>
>
> Prof. Swaine is not comfortable with having an incomplete document bearing
> his name in wider circulation, and we fully appreciate  that viewpoint. In
> addition, due to his academic responsibilities for the remainder of this
> month, he does not believe he will be able to complete a final draft prior
> to a potential 3/2 WG call or our F2F meeting in Marrakech (which is
> currently scheduled to take place from 9-10:15 am on Wednesday, March 9).
>
>
>
> However, he did commit to provide our WG with a synopsis of his research to
> date in the next week to ten days, which will provide us a focus for an
> anticipated WG planning call on 3/2. The same document can be used to
> catalyze discussion in Marrakech – and we plan to make sure that GAC and IGO
> attendees are made aware that they are welcome to participate in our 3/9
> session. We will then provide Prof. Swaine with feedback from those two
> sessions to help guide him in his completion of the report, which we now
> anticipate receiving in final form later in March.
>
>
>
> While we had all hoped to have a final report available prior to our
> Marrakech meeting, the agreed upon approach seems like the second best
> option and will at least provide us with a basis for discussion over the
> next few weeks.
>
>
>
> Please let us know if you have questions or comments.
>
>
>
> Best to all,
>
> Philip
>
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> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
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> From: Phil Corwin
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:13 AM
> To: 'George Kirikos'
> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
>
>
> George:
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>
> Thanks for your inquiry.
>
>
>
> Here's the state of play--
>
> ·         Last week we received a draft from Prof. Swaine. The draft was
> incomplete in that it did not yet contain conclusions. It is quite
> comprehensive on the interface of sovereign immunity and IGOs and
> demonstrates that this area is not fully developed or uniform, that a great
> deal of discretion is left to individual nations to determine the scope of
> recognized immunity, and that some considerations argue for waiver in the
> UDRP context as being acceptable, while others may lead to a contrary
> conclusion.
>
> ·         Due to travel schedules, the first time that Petter and I had a
> chance to discuss the draft with ICANN staff was yesterday. We are seeking
> to schedule a call with Prof. Swaine later this week if at all possible to
> raise various questions and issues as well as to determine what his
> preliminary conclusions are..
>
> ·         Our hope is to get a more complete draft distributed to all WG
> members as soon as possible, and certainly prior to the Marrakech meeting.
> Once we speak with Prof. Swaine we will schedule a WG call for either
> February 24 or March 2 (I depart for Marrakech on March 3) to prepare for
> our Marrakech meeting.
>
> ·         At our meeting in Marrakech, we intend to seek comments on the
> draft from all WG members, as well as from IGOs and GAC members. (Staff-do
> we as yet have a time and date for our WG meeting?) Following Marrakech we
> intend to move forward expeditiously on our work using the report as a basis
> for determining our course.
>
> Let me know if you have any additional questions at this time.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Philip
>
>
>
> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
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> Twitter: @VlawDC
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> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:33 PM
> To: Phil Corwin
> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
>
>
> I just wanted to followup and see how things are progressing. If we don't
> get the draft Swaine report soon, then that means we're looking at sometime
> in March for our next teleconference? (i.e. there's no meeting tomorrow, and
> it wouldn't make sense to have a meeting next Wednesday unless the report
> was provided before the weekend, so folks can digest it and have informed
> comments/discussions).
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> George Kirikos
>
> 416-588-0269
>
> http://www.leap.com/
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>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year, George.
>
>>
>
>> We have checked with Professor Swaine and are expecting a draft document
>> very soon, possibly later this week. As soon as we receive it we will be
>> back in touch with the WG.
>
>>
>
>> Best, Philip
>
>>
>
>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>
>> Virtualaw LLC
>
>> 1155 F Street, NW
>
>> Suite 1050
>
>> Washington, DC 20004
>
>> 202-559-8597/Direct
>
>> 202-559-8750/Fax
>
>> 202-255-6172/cell
>
>>
>
>> Twitter: @VlawDC
>
>>
>
>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org
>
>> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of George
>
>> Kirikos
>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:16 PM
>
>> To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
>
>> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
>>
>
>> Hi folks,
>
>>
>
>> Happy New Year.
>
>>
>
>> It's been a while, so I just wanted to see if we have any news/updates
>> regarding the Swaine report?
>
>>
>
>> Sincerely,
>
>>
>
>> George Kirikos
>
>> 416-588-0269
>
>> http://www.leap.com/
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