[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?

Tue Mar 1 15:20:21 UTC 2016

Paul:

We are in no way trying to suppress discussion, but as of yesterday we had not seen anyone indicate that we should hold a call tomorrow other than you. Both staff and the Co-Chairs are very busy this week preparing to fly to Marrakech (I depart on Thursday).

Now George indicates that he can be on a call tomorrow, but is indifferent to whether it is held, and thinks it needs minimum participation of 7-8 WG members to be worthwhile.

If there are other WG members who believe it would be useful to hold a call tomorrow and are available to participate at 1700 UTC, can they please indicate that at once?

Best, Philip

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-----Original Message-----
From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:00 AM
To: Paul Keating
Cc: Mary Wong; Phil Corwin; gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?

I can make it tomorrow at the usual time, but I'm indifferent as to it being tomorrow or next week (we'd probably want at least 7 or 8 participants if we're going to have it tomorrow).

Sincerely,

George Kirikos

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On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es<mailto:paul at law.es>> wrote:

> Mary. I saw 3 including me.

>

> Sincerely,

> Paul Keating, Esq.

>

> On Mar 1, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>> wrote:

>

> Dear all, as of now we have only received indication from one working

> group member of a wish to have a WG call tomorrow ahead of the Marrakech meeting.

> If you think it would be preferable to schedule a call tomorrow as

> well, please reply as soon as possible so that we can make the

> necessary arrangements and let everyone know.

>

> Thanks and cheers

> Mary

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Feb 29, 2016, at 13:04, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>> wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> Please find attached the synopsis document from Professor Swaine that

> Phil referred to in his email update to our Working Group (below). As

> Phil mentioned, his and Petter’s plan is to use this as the basis for

> discussion during the WG meeting at ICANN55, which is currently

> scheduled for Wednesday

> 9 March.

>

> However, should you wish to hold a brief discussion this Wednesday (at

> our usual meeting time of 1700 UTC) to provide initial feedback on the

> attached synopsis as a preparatory step to the fuller discussion next

> week, please reply to this email accordingly. If a sufficient number

> of members indicate that they would like to meet this week as well, we

> will go ahead and schedule a call accordingly.

>

> Thanks and cheers

> Mary

>

>

> Mary Wong

> Senior Policy Director

> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

> Email: mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>

> Telephone: +1-603-5744889

>

>

> From: <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Phil Corwin

> <psc at vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>>

> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 12:20

> To: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com<mailto:icann at leap.com>>

> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>>

> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?

>

> Dear IGO CRP WG Members:

>

>

>

> Here is a further update on the situation as regards Prof. Swaine’s

> legal research.

>

>

>

> Petter and I, along with Mary and Steve, engaged in a one hour call

> yesterday with Prof. Swaine in which we discussed our questions and

> comments regarding the current uncompleted draft report, as well as

> the needs of the WG in preparation for Marrakech.

>

>

>

> Prof. Swaine is not comfortable with having an incomplete document

> bearing his name in wider circulation, and we fully appreciate  that

> viewpoint. In addition, due to his academic responsibilities for the

> remainder of this month, he does not believe he will be able to

> complete a final draft prior to a potential 3/2 WG call or our F2F

> meeting in Marrakech (which is currently scheduled to take place from 9-10:15 am on Wednesday, March 9).

>

>

>

> However, he did commit to provide our WG with a synopsis of his

> research to date in the next week to ten days, which will provide us a

> focus for an anticipated WG planning call on 3/2. The same document

> can be used to catalyze discussion in Marrakech – and we plan to make

> sure that GAC and IGO attendees are made aware that they are welcome

> to participate in our 3/9 session. We will then provide Prof. Swaine

> with feedback from those two sessions to help guide him in his

> completion of the report, which we now anticipate receiving in final form later in March.

>

>

>

> While we had all hoped to have a final report available prior to our

> Marrakech meeting, the agreed upon approach seems like the second best

> option and will at least provide us with a basis for discussion over

> the next few weeks.

>

>

>

> Please let us know if you have questions or comments.

>

>

>

> Best to all,

>

> Philip

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> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal

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> 1155 F Street, NW

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> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

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> From: Phil Corwin

> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:13 AM

> To: 'George Kirikos'

> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>

> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?

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> George:

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>

> Thanks for your inquiry.

>

>

>

> Here's the state of play--

>

> ·         Last week we received a draft from Prof. Swaine. The draft was

> incomplete in that it did not yet contain conclusions. It is quite

> comprehensive on the interface of sovereign immunity and IGOs and

> demonstrates that this area is not fully developed or uniform, that a

> great deal of discretion is left to individual nations to determine

> the scope of recognized immunity, and that some considerations argue

> for waiver in the UDRP context as being acceptable, while others may

> lead to a contrary conclusion.

>

> ·         Due to travel schedules, the first time that Petter and I had a

> chance to discuss the draft with ICANN staff was yesterday. We are

> seeking to schedule a call with Prof. Swaine later this week if at all

> possible to raise various questions and issues as well as to determine

> what his preliminary conclusions are..

>

> ·         Our hope is to get a more complete draft distributed to all WG

> members as soon as possible, and certainly prior to the Marrakech meeting.

> Once we speak with Prof. Swaine we will schedule a WG call for either

> February 24 or March 2 (I depart for Marrakech on March 3) to prepare

> for our Marrakech meeting.

>

> ·         At our meeting in Marrakech, we intend to seek comments on the

> draft from all WG members, as well as from IGOs and GAC members.

> (Staff-do we as yet have a time and date for our WG meeting?)

> Following Marrakech we intend to move forward expeditiously on our

> work using the report as a basis for determining our course.

>

> Let me know if you have any additional questions at this time.

>

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>

> Best regards, Philip

>

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>

> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal

>

> Virtualaw LLC

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> 1155 F Street, NW

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> Washington, DC 20004

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> 202-559-8597/Direct

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> Twitter: @VlawDC

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> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:33 PM

> To: Phil Corwin

> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>

> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?

>

>

>

> I just wanted to followup and see how things are progressing. If we

> don't get the draft Swaine report soon, then that means we're looking

> at sometime in March for our next teleconference? (i.e. there's no

> meeting tomorrow, and it wouldn't make sense to have a meeting next

> Wednesday unless the report was provided before the weekend, so folks

> can digest it and have informed comments/discussions).

>

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

>

> George Kirikos

>

> 416-588-0269

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> http://www.leap.com/

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> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>> wrote:

>

>> Happy New Year, George.

>

>>

>

>> We have checked with Professor Swaine and are expecting a draft

>> document very soon, possibly later this week. As soon as we receive

>> it we will be back in touch with the WG.

>

>>

>

>> Best, Philip

>

>>

>

>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal

>

>> Virtualaw LLC

>

>> 1155 F Street, NW

>

>> Suite 1050

>

>> Washington, DC 20004

>

>> 202-559-8597/Direct

>

>> 202-559-8750/Fax

>

>> 202-255-6172/cell

>

>>

>

>> Twitter: @VlawDC

>

>>

>

>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

>

>>

>

>>

>

>> -----Original Message-----

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>> From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org>

>

>> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of George

>

>> Kirikos

>

>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:16 PM

>

>> To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>

>

>> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?

>

>>

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>> Hi folks,

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>

>> Happy New Year.

>

>>

>

>> It's been a while, so I just wanted to see if we have any

>> news/updates regarding the Swaine report?

>

>>

>

>> Sincerely,

>

>>

>

>> George Kirikos

>

>> 416-588-0269

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